The often cited Our world in data chart from 2016 has "Aviation" at 1.9% and "Energy in agriculture AND fishing" at 1.7%. BBC eh?
Monbiot changing direction?
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renewablejohn
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Not saying renewable its cobalt free which has moved on.
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I wouldn't believe anything Montbiot says
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That's a lot of fishing nets casually discarded eh? Every year?
He's doing one thing right though, he's turning one brother against another. Fisherfolk Vs farmers. I guess he'll call that a success. Divide and conquer. Lets just hope rural living fishermen don't start mentioning the things they see every day yet never bother whining about because till now they've had no reason to rock the boat. Pun intended.
How much plastic is in the ocean?
Between 4.8 and 12.7 million tonnes of plastic enter the ocean each year, according to figures published in the journal Science in 2015. Plastic can enter the ocean as large, identifiable items or as microplastics - pieces under five millimetres in length. Both pose a threat to marine life.
He's doing one thing right though, he's turning one brother against another. Fisherfolk Vs farmers. I guess he'll call that a success. Divide and conquer. Lets just hope rural living fishermen don't start mentioning the things they see every day yet never bother whining about because till now they've had no reason to rock the boat. Pun intended.
Inky
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You can't compare the UK to anywhere in Asia or India, take a country like Vietnam that doesn't have councils and household bin collection services, they've always put their waste into rivers and animals pre-plastics which which would have broken down naturally. They are continuing to do what they've always done within the resources at their disposal.
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Exactly, with a population that is growing exponentially. Rural India is exactly the same, and no ammount of spouting by Mr Moanallot is going to change that. In addition, the whole new World of Nitrogen Fertilizer is growing like mad in these Countries. (albeit only for the wealthy, or cooperatives)
I was on a Mountian track in India, on a motorcycle. We had to pull over to let a Wagon pass, a bloody wagon !! Up a mountain, on a rough track. When he passed, I noticed he was loaded with about
3 tons of bagged (50kg bags) of Nitrogen. The farming area was green and terraced, and lots of soil, the main crop looked to be sweet-corn and some vegetables. But it was tropical, hot and rained allot, so it's not only plastic and rubbish going into the rivers..
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George Monbiot says farming should be abolished to save the planet
Writing in his latest book, the Guardian columnist said the world must do away with meat and dairy production because it is a 'phenomenally profligate' way to produce food.
beardface
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George Monbiot says farming should be abolished to save the planet
Writing in his latest book, the Guardian columnist said the world must do away with meat and dairy production because it is a 'phenomenally profligate' way to produce food.www.dailymail.co.uk
Can we use him as a medium to grow the bacteria?
The Seeker
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I’ve been at sea, the ocean is full of crap
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I thought Monbidiot was on the left wing of politics. Why would he advocate turning over control of the worlds food supply to multinational corporations or is he not bright enough to realise the implications of his new mantra?
shelly reynolds
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He would make some lovely compost.......Full of sh!te
Bring it on! I could do with a lie in and some time off looking after my pesky moos.George Monbiot says farming should be abolished to save the planet
Writing in his latest book, the Guardian columnist said the world must do away with meat and dairy production because it is a 'phenomenally profligate' way to produce food.
Bloody submarine s
SilliamWhale
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I think he thinks he has the answer because he met Iain Tolhurst last year who runs a vegan market garden business.
I'm sure Mr Tolhurst is doing a great job and has a nice little business but we would have to take an awful lot of supplements to replace the good of what meat does. Vegan baby's and children anyone? It's quite risky
I'm sure Mr Tolhurst is doing a great job and has a nice little business but we would have to take an awful lot of supplements to replace the good of what meat does. Vegan baby's and children anyone? It's quite risky
You’ve answered your own question there.
Swarfmonkey
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If it wasn't for the "volunteers" (AKA free labour) Tolhurst would not be making a penny.
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I find it works for me, saves a lot of arguments with myself.
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Food project volunteers are great, but Britain seems to be becoming a land of baby bird lard arses (as predicted by Pixar in Wall-E) who can barely shuffle towards the door to collect their food bank delivery. If the global problem is feeding the world, the British & American problem is stopping a lot of them eating. The dichotomy between those that thrive & those than sponge is getting wider & it's unlikely to see the latter volunteering at a food project, running an allotment or collecting a weekly veg box from regen ag polytunnels (disclaimer: not everyone on benefits is a Sponger; Sponging is a cultural habit passed from generation to generation).
Even a few fantastic Pick Your Own enterprises which used to be the bastion of the Women's Institute household jam makers is more likely populated with yummy mummies trying to keep their children healthy & active in between the skinny lattes. There's never been a time where Home Economics has mattered more but remains overlooked by the education syllabus which would help society to develop some independency skills. Instead the knee jerk reaction is to put Rishi Sunak on the news with his Kaa The Snake "Trust In Me" eyes & offer to spoon feed society more.
If the NHS is the Grim Reaper of the welfare state; the welfare state reaps what it sows.
PS: I wonder if Monbiot realises that this is the dystopian future of mankind below after they've shovelled more fungus based smoothies enriched with sugar & loaded with simple carbs to take away the revolting taste into their digestive tracts...
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SilliamWhale
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Really? I've no idea how it is run
Cowabunga
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Mr Monbiot lived in Machynlleth for a short while. In town of course. Even so he hated seeing sheep in the fields among the massive amount of trees out of town and on the hills where nothing but grass will grow. He couldn’t hack the semi-rural life and hates that anyone can and tries his very best to make these areas outside town into depopulated wildernesses that are tree monocultures full of foxes, badgers, wolves and leopards. Somewhere for the urbanites to dump their rubbish, unwanted pets, and to make nice fires.
His latest book exposes these ambitions and his total distain for rural life and indeed for all animals. Like many of his ilk, he actually hates all animals but tries to disguise it by advocating for non-domicile raptors which are mostly top tier predators that prey on those further down the life chain. I do believe, and this book re-enforces my view that he wants every human activity to be centrally managed and urban, including food production, and all land nationalised or made commercially unviable for all non arable food production and turned into a playground for the townies.
He is like a Stalin in reverse and would force all countryside dwellers into cities to factory-produce processed gloop for the masses.
His latest book exposes these ambitions and his total distain for rural life and indeed for all animals. Like many of his ilk, he actually hates all animals but tries to disguise it by advocating for non-domicile raptors which are mostly top tier predators that prey on those further down the life chain. I do believe, and this book re-enforces my view that he wants every human activity to be centrally managed and urban, including food production, and all land nationalised or made commercially unviable for all non arable food production and turned into a playground for the townies.
He is like a Stalin in reverse and would force all countryside dwellers into cities to factory-produce processed gloop for the masses.