grainboy
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
Totally agree,
What does a waste transfer license prove, ?
absolutely diddly squat, !!
Transporting scrap
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What does a waste transfer license prove, ?
absolutely diddly squat, !!
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
I normally go with a horse and cart. I graze Tyson on the verge so he’s well use to traffic noise, no alarms and no surprises.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Presumably it’s only places that dispose of waste within the law that would ask for one anyway, so if you’ve arrived at their gate you’re doing the right thing.
I can’t imagine anyone operating a dodgy waste disposal company worrying about such technicalities so they end up as a job creation excercise adding yet another cost onto those doing the right thing.
- Location
- Yorkshire Dales UK.
Yes, but you need to cover your self it to easy to fine a farm or business that has not the right paper we aren't going to move to the next county.
I am just saying what they say we need to do.
It's all good letting the transit take the scrap till all the bits they could not use or sell are fly-tipped then EA/county council come to you asking for your Duty of care paperwork and you don't have any.
A lot did end up overseas we have a bin at a place they produce 9 to 12 tones of paper waste a day and we use to be able to give them some money for the waste and it went to China but now they pay for use to take it away and it goes into making compost.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
I hear what you’re saying although just to clarify, it wasn’t me who was talking about letting the men in transits take stuff away, I was referring to farmers taking stuff to the appropriate place be it scrap, plastic or whatever.
- Location
- Yorkshire Dales UK.
Yes, sorry, trying to cover two comments. the bottom one is more to your comment.
That world trade is changing and hopefully, things will not happen as you describe.
I know the waste paper we sold changed nearly overnight and went from having a value to valueless. We went from giving money for it to getting paid to remove it and having some interesting meetings where they thought we were trying to pull a fast one till they rang some other people and got their quotes.
livestock 1
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Pretty poor this
- Location
- The North
I often take it with my ifor what paperwork am I supposed to have?
TripleSix
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- Location
- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
ollie989898
Member
Explain to me why so many posts seem to illustrate the determined desire to cart just about everything with a tractor and trailer? It's more expensive than a wagon, it's slower and it's more inconvenient to the public. Why do it?
originally they said it was to stop illegal tipping ,my arse was it it was yet again to tax the law abiding while the scrotes just carry on regardless
- Location
- Yorkshire Dales UK.
Yes, as someone says a low tear one should cover you
https://www.environmental-licences.co.uk/
Ours comes up every 3 years like I said previously you cant tip at the places around here unless you have a license (unless you are in a car and household even little vans they won't tip without a license)
You should have a "duty of care waste transfer note" may need to give a copy to the transfer station and you keep a copy.
Waste transfer notes must include:
- A description of the waste
- How the waste is contained or packaged
- The amount/weight of the waste
- The location and date that the waste is transferred
- The details of the person or organization that produced the waste
- The details of the person or organization that is transporting the waste
- Details of the license or exemption of the person receiving the waste
- The relevant European Waste Catalogue (EWC) code for the waste
- The SIC code that applies to your business (if applicable)
Blank template of one.
I know it's BS and has not stopped flytipping but Look how the farm office has increased over the years I know are one has, everything has to be traceable.
livestock 1
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Haulage is paid by the customer. You are insulting every farmer with a tractor and trailer on a forum which is assumed to be mainly farmers. The scrap quoted is the farmers property so has nothing to do with stealing from any hauliers mouth which you are accusing. It’s called hire and reward look it up if you want.
You really don’t understand farming to write such tosh on here. A farm trailer can be loaded up in spare time rather than booking a haulier at a specific time interrupting other work. Not to mention getting a look at the weight.
livestock 1
Member
My scrap goes in with a haulier by the way but he moves other things for us the rest of the year so he doesn’t mind doing it so much.
It can be much more convenient if a farmer can use his own gear providing he’s not too far away and he is doing nothing wrong. He’s already bought all that stuff to start with he’s just selling it again for a very small percentage of the price he initially paid for it. It’s part of his farming business along with whatever he produces so no more inconvenience to the public as you put it than any other of his activities to run his farm
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
On Devon live this morning a tractor and trailer pulled in by Police for hauling stone/ mud.
Police say they pulled in the tractor as they claim you are not allowed to use a tractor on the roads for any non AG work! reported for that and not covering load/ brake issues and axle weight issue.
Other week they pulled in a very modern tractor and trailer hauling straw at the same place and told them they cannot haul straw with tractors.
Police say they pulled in the tractor as they claim you are not allowed to use a tractor on the roads for any non AG work! reported for that and not covering load/ brake issues and axle weight issue.
Other week they pulled in a very modern tractor and trailer hauling straw at the same place and told them they cannot haul straw with tractors.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Depending on the exact circumstances they may or may not be right
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
You can use Tractors on the roads for non ag work but they would have to be run on white and not red.
- Location
- Yorkshire Dales UK.
You start getting into problems if you go over 15 miles (24.14 km) of the farm, then you start to fall into the rules where you need a yearly test certificate and have to list the turnout on your Operaraters licensing.
If there are running spoil off an excavator not from the farm the tractor belongs to then they will say that it is haulage and need to be tested, on white fuel and have an operator license. That has been the case for a long time now but they really enforce it till now.
Been told you may get into problems with the people that move the straw to sell at livestock marts you can take it to the mart but once sold if you take it to the farm its haulage.
But there are a lot of things where you get told conflicting info even from the authorities.
the turnouts we use for hire and reward are probably overdone we have them on license and tractors, trailers, and tankers are yearly tested the only thing we don't do is have tachographs in them which we don't fall into. (don't buy over 40k)
If there are running spoil off an excavator not from the farm the tractor belongs to then they will say that it is haulage and need to be tested, on white fuel and have an operator license. That has been the case for a long time now but they really enforce it till now.
Been told you may get into problems with the people that move the straw to sell at livestock marts you can take it to the mart but once sold if you take it to the farm its haulage.
But there are a lot of things where you get told conflicting info even from the authorities.
the turnouts we use for hire and reward are probably overdone we have them on license and tractors, trailers, and tankers are yearly tested the only thing we don't do is have tachographs in them which we don't fall into. (don't buy over 40k)
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
No issue with straw sold at market and then delivered, that would be no diffrent to hauling it direct from farm to buyer, by the seller in a private deal!
No such thing as a 15 mile limit if you are hauling your own goods between units/ to the grain mill/ buying/selling straw/ going to market/slaughterhouse etc etc.
If there is such a thing is a 15 mile limit then most farms will have to shut down as it would be unworkable in the real world.
- Location
- Yorkshire Dales UK.
Unless there is a revision to the rules there has been a supposed 15-mile limit for a long time.
I agree it should be Ok to move the straw But the person I was chatting to was saying it's not yours once the hammer falls so your carting it but yes I think you would be right.
7. Operator licensing
You may need a goods vehicle operator’s licence if your business uses vehicles, including tractor and trailer combinations, with a maximum authorised mass above 3.5 tonnes, to move goods of any description unless an exemption applies. Licences can be either ‘standard’, to carry goods for ‘hire or reward’, or ‘restricted’, to carry only your own goods.The most likely exemptions from operator licensing for tractor owners are if the tractor:
- is used solely for moving farming implements or articles (any distance), provided the tractor operator owns or is employed by the relevant farm
- is used to haul farm produce within 15 miles (24.14 km) of the farm, or forestry estate (provided the tractor operator owns or is employed by the relevant farm)
- is only used on the road to pass between land owned by the tractor owner, up to a maximum of 6 miles per week
If these exemptions don’t apply, (for example a tractor is used to move agricultural produce more than 15 miles from the farm, or to haul non-agricultural goods) the tractor operator is likely to require an operator’s licence. The operator licensing regime is involved and we recommend consulting the available guidance if you think that it may apply to you.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ory-requirements-a-brief-guide-september-2017
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