It does not bother me where they start bidding as the last bid that counts and at roughly 40 quid a beast to sell the auctioneer has to earn his money
Buying at Auction
- Thread starter Reece1503
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Hell no!! Next autumn I’ll take some pictures of the 12kg specials I see…do all the northern marts just book anything less than 20kg down too you regardless of if you bid because they know you wanted it really?
Do they make you pay for those or are they normally in a BOGOF deal?
- Location
- Cheshire
Exactly! When I’m selling fat stock at the end I expect the auctioneer too shape themselves and get every penny. Why should they operate any differently when I’m trying too buy?
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- Cheshire
A few I know get all pissy when the auctioneer has been running them. Usually because they’ve been having stock cheap! Spare a thought for the poor bugger selling them at that poor price! We all need a turn of the wheel!
Aspiring Peasants
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- North Pennines
Wasn't there but looks a decent trade at Kirkby yesterday
Date: 24 May 2022 | Primestock
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Topping the spring lambs at £187 and 456.1p/kg were a pen of five 41kg Beltex cross lambs from Messrs Ewin, Black Syke, Sandford.
A pen of seven 42kg Texel cross lambs sold to make £184 and 438.1p/kg also from Black Syke.
Messrs Lyle, Staingills, Penrith sold a pair of 44kg Beltex cross lambs to make £182, with a pen of 16 39kg lambs making £168.50 (432.1p/kg) and another pen of sixteen 38kg lambs selling for £160.50 (422.4p/kg) all from Staingills.
Messrs Morrell, Hopewell Farm, Darlington sold a pen of 38kg Beltex cross lambs to make £169 (444.7p/kg)
Messrs Platt, Far Whittles Farm, Cheshire sold a pen of 13 35kg lambs to make £150 (428.6p/kg)
Suffolk cross lambs topped at £179 and 397.8p/kg for a pen of 45kg lambs from Messrs Wilson, Wood Farm, Thursby.
A wonderful SQQ average of 357.8p/kg and an overall average of 354.6p/kg for 602 spring lambs was achieved!
30 pens and 115 lambs sold between £160-£187
21 pens and 115 lambs sold between 400-456p/kg
154 Beltex cross lambs sold to average £154.47 and 406p/kg.
Many more numbers of spring lambs are needed to fulfil demand from our 12 active buyers on a weekly basis.
Prime hoggs topped at £182.50 for a pen of six 65kg Suffolk cross hoggs from Messrs Hetherington, Old Hall Farm, Penrith.
A pen of 20 68kg Charollais cross hoggs sold to make £181, and a pen of 16 66kg Texel cross hoggs selling for £180 all from Old Hall Farm.
The consignment of 105 Suffolk, Charollais and Texel cross hoggs from this home sold to average 69kg £174.37 (252.7p/kg)
Messrs Smith, Kelmore Hill Farm, Workington sold 62kg Texel cross hoggs to make £180.
Blackfaced hoggs sold to top at 298.9p/kg for a pen of 36 44kg hoggs which sold to make £131.50 from Messrs Fisher, Smalmstown Farm, Longtow
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With another pen of 36 40kg Blackfaced hoggs making £119.50 (298.8p/kg) and a pen of 36 41kg hoggs making £121 (295.1p/kg) all from Smalmstown Farm.
Messrs Addison, Greystoke House, Kings Meaburn sold a pen of 15 47kg Blackfaced hoggs to make £134.
Hill cheviot hoggs sold to £156 on two separate occasions for pens of 14 & 12, 61kg and 62kg hoggs from Messrs Smithson, Bloan Farm, Brough Sowerby
.
Messrs Dawson, Yore sold a pen of 19 46kg Texel cross hoggs to make £149 (323.9p/kg
)
All weights and breeds of well flashed hoggs and particularly heavy hoggs were a lot dearer with some achieving an upwards of £20-£30 dearer than they have been seen anywhere recently.
Cast sheep topped at £210 for Dutch Texel ewes from Messrs Lyle, Staingills, Penrith.
Date: 24 May 2022 | Primestock
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KIRKBY STEPHEN PRIME SHEEP SALE
KIRKBY STEPHEN, FARADAY ROAD, KIRKBY STEPHEN, CA17 4QL
Harrison & Hetherington Ltd, Kirkby Stephen Mart held their weekly sale of prime sheep on Tuesday night, when 2,231 sheep were forward consisting of 602 spring lambs, 1,025 prime hoggs and 502 cast sheep.Topping the spring lambs at £187 and 456.1p/kg were a pen of five 41kg Beltex cross lambs from Messrs Ewin, Black Syke, Sandford.
A pen of seven 42kg Texel cross lambs sold to make £184 and 438.1p/kg also from Black Syke.
Messrs Lyle, Staingills, Penrith sold a pair of 44kg Beltex cross lambs to make £182, with a pen of 16 39kg lambs making £168.50 (432.1p/kg) and another pen of sixteen 38kg lambs selling for £160.50 (422.4p/kg) all from Staingills.
Messrs Morrell, Hopewell Farm, Darlington sold a pen of 38kg Beltex cross lambs to make £169 (444.7p/kg)
Messrs Platt, Far Whittles Farm, Cheshire sold a pen of 13 35kg lambs to make £150 (428.6p/kg)
Suffolk cross lambs topped at £179 and 397.8p/kg for a pen of 45kg lambs from Messrs Wilson, Wood Farm, Thursby.
A wonderful SQQ average of 357.8p/kg and an overall average of 354.6p/kg for 602 spring lambs was achieved!
30 pens and 115 lambs sold between £160-£187
21 pens and 115 lambs sold between 400-456p/kg
154 Beltex cross lambs sold to average £154.47 and 406p/kg.
Many more numbers of spring lambs are needed to fulfil demand from our 12 active buyers on a weekly basis.
Prime hoggs topped at £182.50 for a pen of six 65kg Suffolk cross hoggs from Messrs Hetherington, Old Hall Farm, Penrith.
A pen of 20 68kg Charollais cross hoggs sold to make £181, and a pen of 16 66kg Texel cross hoggs selling for £180 all from Old Hall Farm.
The consignment of 105 Suffolk, Charollais and Texel cross hoggs from this home sold to average 69kg £174.37 (252.7p/kg)
Messrs Smith, Kelmore Hill Farm, Workington sold 62kg Texel cross hoggs to make £180.
Blackfaced hoggs sold to top at 298.9p/kg for a pen of 36 44kg hoggs which sold to make £131.50 from Messrs Fisher, Smalmstown Farm, Longtow
n.
With another pen of 36 40kg Blackfaced hoggs making £119.50 (298.8p/kg) and a pen of 36 41kg hoggs making £121 (295.1p/kg) all from Smalmstown Farm.
Messrs Addison, Greystoke House, Kings Meaburn sold a pen of 15 47kg Blackfaced hoggs to make £134.
Hill cheviot hoggs sold to £156 on two separate occasions for pens of 14 & 12, 61kg and 62kg hoggs from Messrs Smithson, Bloan Farm, Brough Sowerby
.
Messrs Dawson, Yore sold a pen of 19 46kg Texel cross hoggs to make £149 (323.9p/kg
)
All weights and breeds of well flashed hoggs and particularly heavy hoggs were a lot dearer with some achieving an upwards of £20-£30 dearer than they have been seen anywhere recently.
Cast sheep topped at £210 for Dutch Texel ewes from Messrs Lyle, Staingills, Penrith.
told mark one day , you wanna get that hammer down! his reply was just remember i might be selling for you one day, and he has and always done a job but that dowdswell plough stuffed him!
Think people forget that the auctioneers will sell your stock too
If I can’t afford it I can’t afford it .. ain’t the auctioneers fault lol
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- Cheshire
Easy target though…Think people forget that the auctioneers will sell your stock too
I mean… unless the auctioneer is actually intact a pansy then we’ll he’s a pansy ain’t he regardless of who’s stock he’s sellingEasy target though…
At a ram sale a few years ago my dad was bidding on one and he suddenly turned round to face the wall. I thought he was having a stroke or something acting like that and was just about to stick my hand up myself but then the ram was knocked down to us.
Dad turned round and nodded at the auctioneer and then looked at me and said i knew he was bloody running me.
There was a fella at Stirling, can’t remember if it was a ram sale or bull sale that was bidding on his chosen lot got fairly annoyed at the auctioneer for continuing to look for bids instead of knocking it down to him. When I say annoyed I mean actually shouted at him during the bidding!
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- somerset
we walked into an auction late, the bull we wanted, was in the ring, 2 bids, the chap in front of us, who wanted the bull, as well, kept telling the auctioneer, 'you haven't got a bid', and the auctioneer kept saying he had, chap didn't believe him, and kept muttering, looked upset when it was knocked down to us, felt like thanking him, we had a cheap bull.
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- Shropshire
I tend to value a beast (I’m usually accurate) but if I really want it I will often go one bid further than my valuation, particularly if I’m local.
Driving around looking for cattle costs money, so if I can but 6 cattle and it only costs me £60 more than I wanted to pay for the pen, then that’s cheaper than another day at a Mart further away.
Driving around looking for cattle costs money, so if I can but 6 cattle and it only costs me £60 more than I wanted to pay for the pen, then that’s cheaper than another day at a Mart further away.
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- Shropshire
Stock bulls are different. If there’s one you want then you have to be prepared to pay.
Bid on a nice one a few weeks ago. Bidding stopped at £2400 and I thought “great, he’s a good bull”. Then another farmer decided he needed him and he ended up buying him for £3100.
I was disappointed I didn’t get him, but happy I didn’t pay £3k for him.
Bid on a nice one a few weeks ago. Bidding stopped at £2400 and I thought “great, he’s a good bull”. Then another farmer decided he needed him and he ended up buying him for £3100.
I was disappointed I didn’t get him, but happy I didn’t pay £3k for him.
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- somerset
that is the downside of markets, we go to the mkts for dairy cows, but it makes a long day, away from home, and the work, there are always 'good' buys, at dispersals etc, but you have to be there, to find them, and being there, takes a lot of time. We used to sell fresh calved milkers, but to buy the mid lac cows, like we used to, are now to dear, due to the barren price, to make a decent profit, so, more home time.
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- Fife
Buying at auction is an art form. I've tried a couple of times, but lack the skill.
Reading this thread is very interesting. Makes me appreciate my agent all the more.
Reading this thread is very interesting. Makes me appreciate my agent all the more.
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Just think of it like being out on the pull in your youth.
The animal in the ring is the bit of titty you want, but you have to chat up her pal (auctioneer) first... give them the eye and talk to them in subtle body actions, fixed eye contact, a wink - raise an eyebrow, maybe a little wave... But mind on and only smile once the deal is sealed!
It's really just the same. The rush of excitement. The butterflies, the self doubt. Have I actually just bought (pulled) that?!?...
Then going to the office (bar) to pay (buy her a drink)...
Then ofcourse you take it (her) home
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- Fife
Just think of it like being out on the pull in your youth.
The animal in the ring is the bit of titty you want, but you have to chat up her pal (auctioneer) first... give them the eye and talk to them in subtle body actions, fixed eye contact, a wink - raise an eyebrow, maybe a little wave... But mind on and only smile once the deal is sealed!
It's really just the same. The rush of excitement. The butterflies, the self doubt. Have I actually just bought (pulled) that?!?...
Then going to the office (bar) to pay (buy her a drink)...
Then ofcourse you take it (her) home
I always went ugly early to avoid the 0200 rush.
Much the same now really, as I only buy cull ewes.
I’m the man who is alway in early on every pen of gimmer lambs, my mate says i’m auctioneers mate, wether I want them or not I will be in on they £10-£15 below there value. Some times I get a pen bloody cheap but 95% of the time I leave them.