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Boris Is Toast
- Thread starter ski
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An answer to what, my family has to limit who could wish oh dear friend goodbye ?
My old man died Jan 21, 30 in church , 300 outside , job done
I didn't say there was
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- Montgomeryshire
Knowing ‘what he was like’ is the reason I, for the first time in my life, couldn’t vote Conservative in 2019, and would rather pee on my voting card than vote for a party who considers that individual fit to lead. I won’t be alone in that.
He gives an awful impression to the world of UK people who can surely put a decent person in as PM. He is such an embarrassment.
Tarw Coch
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Many hard core conservatives really can’t consider voting any other way, they really can’t get their heads around why here in north Shropshire we went from a 25000 seat conservative majority to a 6000 seat Lib Dem majority after 200 years of continuous conservative MPs.
I copped quite a bit of flack off some of them for displaying a Lib Dem placard at the last by election but as I said to them, all farmers should vote conservative, just the conservatives should give us someone worth voting for...........that confused them.
There will of course be people who are equally devoted to other political parties.
The government is selected in the constituencies that change not the safe seats and by the voters who change their vote within those constituencies . The ability to change the government lies with a relatively small proportion of the electorate.
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Hindsight
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Around 300,000 voter decide the change of government in around 100 swing seats. The rest of the voters are in effect 'the peloton' there to add to the spectacle. Furthermore with detailed analysis one can actually establish which wards of those swing constituencies make the difference, and with further analysis almost work out which streets and groups of houses. The massive swing in your Shropshire constituency is unusual, and is the mark of a political party in crisis when the local electorate decided something disgusts them so much that a significant change in their ingrained voting habit is required. 1997 Blair election was one such occasion on a national scale, when the electorate decided enough of 18 years of Tory government. 2019 when Brexit was the issue. Be interesting to see now.
2019 the other two main parties had brexit policy wrong and paid for it, as you say different story now many people will feel they can vote for them again given the right policy, candidates and of corse leaders but have they got that ? nobody stands out, Blair as he was when he first got elected pm would walk the job
As I said before one lot can be bad but if the others are worse
Tarw Coch
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I don’t think it was all about the swing in votes that gained the Lib Dem’s north Shropshire, apathy amongs conservative voters also played a big part, a lot simply didn’t bother to vote. Lib Dem’s pulled a lot of votes from labour, whilst it wasn’t a certainty that the Lib Dem’s could do it, there was the realisation or maybe just a faint hope that they could, labour voters knew deep down that they could never win this constituency but libs just might so backed them to stick it to the Tory’s.
In fairness to our Lib Dem MP , she seems to be quite active on local issues unlike the conservative predessor who was only seen at high profile events with plenty of publicity but I suspect come the next general election those conservative voters who stayed at home last time will be back at the ballot box.
Paddington
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If you think Boris's apology was bad.....
What a brain dead group of sheep.
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Government minister resigns over the Sue Gray report.
One needs a brain to begin with, which of course we all know the dumbest of sheep have. Tory’s on the other hand…
I would not insult the ordinary sheep by comparing their brain power to those MP shown above, I did say brain dead sheep
Not strictly true. A candidate is what you voted for, with or without a party but certainly not a PM.
Paddington
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- Soggy Shropshire
I aint done nuffink wrong:
Ministers won't be sacked for minor rule breaking, under new guidelines
New guidelines say ministers may be asked to apologise or lose pay for breaching standards rules.
www.bbc.co.uk
not read it but going by the headline it sounds much better, make them put right what they done wrong without pay rather than resigning [with a golden handshake] only to re-appear when the dust has settled as happens nowI aint done nuffink wrong:
Ministers won't be sacked for minor rule breaking, under new guidelines
New guidelines say ministers may be asked to apologise or lose pay for breaching standards rules.www.bbc.co.uk
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- Limousin, France
One, Ministers don't get a golden handshake.
Two, it's when a Minister has lied to Parliament or deliberately misled Parliament and is expected to resign, he now doesn't have to!
Guess why Boris , who has lied to Parliament, has changed the rules!