Farming opportunities in Uruguay

Dead Rabbits · Jun 3, 2022

Lowland1 said:
Less now that the kids aren't in school and since Dad died . About three times a year.

We had a visitor from South Africa whose family farmed in the Congo there were 15 families who have been there for over a 100 years. He showed some amazing pictures of the most beautiful farms in a valley, fantastic crops and cattle they had a fleet of new John Deere tractors and combines it looked like a farming paradise but it was miles from anywhere in a totally lawless country. However they were making a very very good living. I want to send my son to Zimbabwe as there's plenty of opportunities there but the truth of it is you don't want to be putting a lot of money into these places you want to be renting and borrowing as much as you can so if you have to walk away you can.

There was a couple South African members on here. @Dian Landman

My friend there in South Africa is part of a very large family operation. They recently sold everything they owned to the government and leased back while simultaneously buying property along the orange river and looking to Botswana as an exit plan. The land has no value due to ongoing land claim politics

Very very hardcore boer. I don’t think they will ever leave South Africa. It was to the point they had bought out nearly every neighbor around who had given up/been attacked and left.

I’d maybe be up for an African venture if anyone is looking for a partner. Given the right circumstances

Shropshire Farmer · Jun 3, 2022

Would love to do some frontier farming

steveR · Jun 3, 2022

Shropshire Farmer said:
Would love to do some frontier farming

A loaded M14 behind you in every vehicle, and bullet proof glass in teh tractor....?

unlacedgecko · Jun 3, 2022

steveR said:
A loaded M14 behind you in every vehicle, and bullet proof glass in teh tractor....?

Where do I sign? Although I may need to slim down a wee bit to squeeze into body armour.

bobk · Jun 3, 2022

Have you considered Leek @Bokey , too wild for me

Mickeydredd · Jun 3, 2022

Bokey said:
I've long been fascinated with the idea of starting a farm in another country and still keeping a place in uk to flit between started reading about Uruguay and looks some good opportunities for arable and beef production with good infrastructure to move your products does anyone else look into this sort of thing and what's stopping a group of uk farmers joining up an striking out

The President of Uruguay was interviewed on BBC news this morning and it was quite interesting. The President is very much a reformist and is currently in the UK to try to get trade deals set up. Their biggest export country is China, with about 37% of exports heading there. The country has legalised the smaller scale production, sale and consumption of cannibis but due to gang issues does have a homicide problem!

The President is happy to deal outside of the South American countries trading agreements, which does not please the other countries.

I think a major risk of investing there would be that a President can only serve one term there so whilst there may be opportunities currently, you never know what might come along next.

unlacedgecko · Jun 3, 2022

Mickeydredd said:
The President of Uruguay was interviewed on BBC news this morning and it was quite interesting. The President is very much a reformist and is currently in the UK to try to get trade deals set up. Their biggest export country is China, with about 37% of exports heading there. The country has legalised the smaller scale production, sale and consumption of cannibis but due to gang issues does have a homicide problem!

The President is happy to deal outside of the South American countries trading agreements, which does not please the other countries.

I think a major risk of investing there would be that a President can only serve one term there so whilst there may be opportunities currently, you never know what might come along next.

Supposed to have the best beef traceability scheme in the world. There's already a western owned abattoir there as well.

Hilly · Jun 3, 2022

le bon paysan said:
Looked at Cattle ranches. Thought it was affordable, all things considered. Wife's got Cousins there, so Canadian prices not immigration agents prices.

If i were to emigrate id be moving to avoid winter , i never thought id say this but i couldnt stand Canadian winter stuff that lifes to short for that , ive a mate been their over 30 year and he hates it desperate to come
Home but he married a local and she wont come to uk . The oics he puts on the weather is hellish and goes on and on and on for
Months and months .

Hilly · Jun 3, 2022

i know another fella bought a farm in canada cos ot was cheap he is sick to death and wants out but cant get out as its still cheaper than everywhere he wants to go ,,,, another went and he loves. It so one out of three happy .

czechmate · Jun 3, 2022

Mrs Czech (from the Czech rep) misses their winters, regularly in the minus mid 20’s but it’s not for me

unlacedgecko · Jun 3, 2022

How a Uruguayan town revolutionised the way we eat

Located on the banks of the Uruguay River and named after a 17th-Century hermit, the sleepy town of Fray Bentos produced one of the most influential food brands of the 20th Century.

www.bbc.com

sahara · Jun 3, 2022

unlacedgecko said:
Supposed to have the best beef traceability scheme in the world. There's already a western owned abattoir there as well.

unlacedgecko said:
How a Uruguayan town revolutionised the way we eat

Located on the banks of the Uruguay River and named after a 17th-Century hermit, the sleepy town of Fray Bentos produced one of the most influential food brands of the 20th Century.

www.bbc.com

You beat me to it!
I was just going to mention Fray Bentos!

Roger Perry · Jun 3, 2022

I remember being at one of those promotional events held by Canadian farm realtors back in the early 1990's held at a pub one evening in Ashbourne, Derby.

One sage remarked that if you bought a farm in Canada "you better make bloody sure you like it, cause you will never be able to sell it"

Bit of a stretch maybe but the remoteness of a lot of farm operations can put a strain on everyday life for English farm families used to having people around.

Hilly · Jun 3, 2022

Roger Perry said:
I remember being at one of those promotional events held by Canadian farm realtors back in the early 1990's held at a pub one evening in Ashbourne, Derby.

One sage remarked that if you bought a farm in Canada "you better make bloody sure you like it, cause you will never be able to sell it"

Bit of a stretch maybe but the remoteness of a lot of farm operations can put a strain on everyday life for English farm families used to having people around.

My dad was going in the 80s but changed his mind, im pleased.

unlacedgecko · Jun 3, 2022

The European run abattoir I mentioned earlier is an enterprise by Terry Johnson, a Cornish man who brought $150mil of investment to the project.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nuffieldscholar.org/sites/default/files/reports/2009_UK_Huw-Davies_Farm-Animal-Welfare-A-Voyage-Of-Discovery.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwirnuydh5L4AhWYUsAKHZPwDeAQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XSfNo5yrWC04zG9IDp10D

unlacedgecko · Jun 3, 2022

Bpu Meat | Uruguay’s world first in cattle farming

www.bpumeat.com

More on traceability in Uruguay.

Lowland1 · Jun 4, 2022

Bokey said:
Are there tractor an machinery dealers out there or do you have to import every nut an bolt yourself?

There are dealers but if you want anything specific you have to get someone to import or do it yourself plus stuff can be expensive. When we started we imported everything now we do buy stuff here but we are selective.

Lowland1 · Jun 4, 2022

Dead Rabbits said:
There was a couple South African members on here. @Dian Landman

My friend there in South Africa is part of a very large family operation. They recently sold everything they owned to the government and leased back while simultaneously buying property along the orange river and looking to Botswana as an exit plan. The land has no value due to ongoing land claim politics

Very very hardcore boer. I don’t think they will ever leave South Africa. It was to the point they had bought out nearly every neighbor around who had given up/been attacked and left.

I’d maybe be up for an African venture if anyone is looking for a partner. Given the right circumstances

We could swap I quite liked 'merica.

Bokey · Jun 4, 2022

Lowland1 said:
There are dealers but if you want anything specific you have to get someone to import or do it yourself plus stuff can be expensive. When we started we imported everything now we do buy stuff here but we are selective.

Do you have alot of paperwork to contend with importing equipment and inputs sprays fert etc and also exporting your produce back to here?

Lowland1 · Jun 4, 2022

Bokey said:
Do you have alot of paperwork to contend with importing equipment and inputs sprays fert etc and also exporting your produce back to here?. We

Yes all equipment needs inspecting in the UK to raise an import declaration form to be able to be allowed to import it. We don’t import fertiliser and chemicals but we have done seed for which you need a phytosanitary certificate and it has to be of a approved variety in the country plus a sample has to be submitted for a germination test.
With regard to exports a phytosanitary sample will be taken on export and on arrival in the UK a sample is taken to assess pesticide residues and whether any pests can be detected. In order to get an export licence we need to pass a Global Gap audit and meet the standards of any supermarket you are supplying such a TNC for Tescos. We have also done a LEAF audit that we failed because we hadn’t set aside any specific area for wildlife even though we told the auditor to have a look out the window at the giraffe walking by apparently it needed its own spot not the whole farm and we’ve also done the FACTs and BASIS courses.

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