Round baling silage cost

Fendt516profi

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Livestock Farmer
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Yorkshire
Averaging 52 bales is some going if your counting fuelling up, greasing/topups, net/wrap changes, travelling etc.
You'd be doing 70 bales/hr at some points in the day
Computer on baler counts when PTO is running. Set the one on tractor to count while engines running running. But as someone's said it can wrap 6layers in 30 seconds i can have a bale ready for wrapper if I can drop them off without needing to place them
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
You were behind someone's 10ft haybob, they may have been behind a 30ft rake some to be picking up same amount of grass you have to be going three times faster than them. I baled a couple of fields yesterday baler says my average bale count was 52 bales a hr not a bad field but couldn't just drop bales wherever
Is that with a fusion ? if so what tractor ? power? did you have on the front of it
 
Computer on baler counts when PTO is running. Set the one on tractor to count while engines running running. But as someone's said it can wrap 6layers in 30 seconds i can have a bale ready for wrapper if I can drop them off without needing to place them
So just while the baler is running, ours counts that way too, but I generally count hours spent dealing with the baler, like fueling up, net changes etc. and work my hourly output out from there.

But for comparing baling 10fts with 30ft for example cycle time is the only fair comparison
 

Agrivator

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A major benefit of having your own baler and wrapper is that you can bale as slowly as necessary to make bales with solid centres. And you can stop baling if the wrapper breaks down, or if you think it will be better left until tomorrow.

And if the contractor fills up with your diesel at the end of a job, how do you be sure he arrived with a full (ish) tank?
 

Ceri

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Whether it comes out your tank, or on the invoice from the contractor, you're paying fuel either way?

I don't understand the logic of paying somebody to work while sitting watching it being done? Unless you're away earning more during the time it would take to do the job, it's costing money?

Going out and buying a quarter of million pound self propelled harvester is obviously bonkers, but repayments on good used tack like will be significantly lower than the contractors fee. I started with a £2k baler and a very old trailed wrapper. Again unless you're off farm earning while the contractor works, why don't the figures stack up for you?
It's a small day doing the pit mate I'm not standing there watching them for 3 weeks 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Then instead of spending endless days carting and stacking bales Im drenching lambs, moving cattle, spreading muck, ploughing & drilling stubble turnips instead of having to pay contractors to do that work cause I was struggling for time due to LUGGING FECKIN ROUND BALES............ So Im also saving money there as well now I have time to do it all myself 👌👌👌👌. Jesus u reakon Its cheaper to buy a rake, baler & wrapper and crack on yourself with it ....f*ck me mon being a one man band there's jus not enough time in the day..... Or money in the bank....
I love to work hard but you've got to work smart nowa days & putting the pit in was the smartest thing I ever did.
 
It's a small day doing the pit mate I'm not standing there watching them for 3 weeks 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Then instead of spending endless days carting and stacking bales Im drenching lambs, moving cattle, spreading muck, ploughing & drilling stubble turnips instead of having to pay contractors to do that work cause I was struggling for time due to LUGGING FECKIN ROUND BALES............ So Im also saving money there as well now I have time to do it all myself 👌👌👌👌. Jesus u reakon Its cheaper to buy a rake, baler & wrapper and crack on yourself with it ....f*ck me mon being a one man band there's jus not enough time in the day..... Or money in the bank....
I love to work hard but you've got to work smart nowa days & putting the pit in was the smartest thing I ever did.
your rake fusion etc should last 30yrs if well looked after and still have a value then, your contractor fees are dead money and will get dearer year on year
 

valtraman

Member
Thats what put me off them, the baler is enough some places, would probably need a bigger tractor.
I have never used a fusion but have watched them and they seem slow, we were baling/wrapping one day and there was a fusion working the other side of the hill and we were far faster and we were behind behind someone's old narrow haybob.
I know you can't really judge unless you are in the same field though.
Running our twin spool in a sloping field I could save the baler a lot of time, he could dump the bale out on the next row or anywhere as he knew I would have it moved by the time he came round again as the wrapper was much faster.
We go some real steel bits with fusion and get on just fine . It’s actually quite handy at times as if u think ahead where Ure sitting a bale u can carry it down over steep bit or sit it off at top . Least with fusion u only sit the bale down once compared to trailed wrapper . Baler drops it the. He wraps and has to drop again. If Ure on 4 layers wrap that’s 60 bales u can rattle out before stopping again
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
We go some real steel bits with fusion and get on just fine . It’s actually quite handy at times as if u think ahead where Ure sitting a bale u can carry it down over steep bit or sit it off at top . Least with fusion u only sit the bale down once compared to trailed wrapper . Baler drops it the. He wraps and has to drop again. If Ure on 4 layers wrap that’s 60 bales u can rattle out before stopping again
I used to like running the twin spool with enduro film it would do nearly 90 before I had to change wrap, it was pushing it a bit with 4 layers though but would have been good stuff with 6, don't even know if you can still get it, it was made in Ireland, I went out there for a look round the factory. can't remember the name of the place or the company that made it.
 

balerman

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Location
N Devon
I used to like running the twin spool with enduro film it would do nearly 90 before I had to change wrap, it was pushing it a bit with 4 layers though but would have been good stuff with 6, don't even know if you can still get it, it was made in Ireland, I went out there for a look round the factory. can't remember the name of the place or the company that made it.
Volac made enduro I’m pretty sure
 

Smokey16

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North devon
do you recon you need that on sloping land or could you get away with less?
I run a MF 6270 120hp on the baler I should think that would struggle with a fusion? old MF 3075 pulls the wrapper around

do you recon you need that on sloping land or could you get away with less?
I run a MF 6270 120hp on the baler I should think that would struggle with a fusion? old MF 3075 pulls the wrapper around
Have you boosted your mf6270
 

zyklon

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Livestock Farmer
What’s a fusion 3 like on hilly ground or on tender ground? Looking into maybe buying a baler+wrapper or a fusion to do some of our own work. Weather was a nightmare this first cut and contractor can only come one day to put half into the pit and then had to wait a week later to put the rest in due to their busy schedule and made a complete mess as it rained heavy before the second day. Could have had several of these fields in waiting on him.
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
U know wat your right I've seen the light........ I'm gonna order a brand new fusion & twin rotor rake Monday...... 30 glorious years working all hours of the day here I come....!!!!!! 💪💪💪💪💪😎😎😎😎😎😎
We've got our own baler but if i were starting out farming again as a young man the first thing i would do is build a pit(s) for a clamp or 2 .(y)
 

Ceri

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What’s a fusion 3 like on hilly ground or on tender ground? Looking into maybe buying a baler+wrapper or a fusion to do some of our own work. Weather was a nightmare this first cut and contractor can only come one day to put half into the pit and then had to wait a week later to put the rest in due to their busy schedule and made a complete mess as it rained heavy before the second day. Could have had several of these fields in waiting on him.
With those big tyres the fusion will go anywhere & good on banks but you'll need a beast of a tractor to go in front of it to boss the weight & drive it....
 

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