Compulsory Purchase of land for Housing.

Formatted

Member
Livestock Farmer
Any actual evidence or just pub chat? Might be there is a bit of compulsory purchase to enable a development e.g slip road, but unheard of to compulsory purchase land primarily for development, so many developers and landowners promoting land, why force someone to sell who doesn't want to?
 
Any actual evidence or just pub chat? Might be there is a bit of compulsory purchase to enable a development e.g slip road, but unheard of to compulsory purchase land primarily for development, so many developers and landowners promoting land, why force someone to sell who doesn't want to?

Because the council get a slice for cash for each new home sold and increased tax revenues thereafter.

This would all be sorted with a 50% uplift on council tax for second/holiday homes.
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Because the council get a slice for cash for each new home sold and increased tax revenues thereafter.

This would all be sorted with a 50% uplift on council tax for second/holiday homes.
What's holiday homes got to do with compulsory purchase orders?
Council get funds off sec 106 agreements anyhow, plus later down the line council tax or business rates???
 

Formatted

Member
Livestock Farmer
Because the council get a slice for cash for each new home sold and increased tax revenues thereafter.

This would all be sorted with a 50% uplift on council tax for second/holiday homes.
I'm a district councillor and what you're saying is just nonsense. The new homes bonus doesn't exist anymore and any additional monies (section 106 or equivalent) are tied to projects, often not related to the council but instead allocated to the police, GP surgery etc. I never look at a house and think "that is tax income", any homes I see I think about the family that will live there and the contribution they'll make to the community.
 
Cornwall County Council will vote on the principal of Compulsory Purchase of Farm land near Truro for Housing.

Good or Bad?!


It's doubtful the CC will have a leg to stand on.

HMG require all councils to have a housing plan for the next 5 years.

Failure to do so opens up the system for arbitary planning permission from private companies - which do so because it makes so much money.

SHLAA & SHELAA should also be full of land available for the next 20 years.

If the CC are trying to bypass market prices to make a killing they'll meet strong resistence in the courts.
 

Chuckie

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Location
England
Any actual evidence or just pub chat? Might be there is a bit of compulsory purchase to enable a development e.g slip road, but unheard of to compulsory purchase land primarily for development, so many developers and landowners promoting land, why force someone to sell who doesn't want to?

It's not unheard of at all. Hundreds of farms were stolen in Lancashire by the government in the 70s. In some cases, the first thing the owner knew about it was a sign on the roadside.

Minimum ag value paid, then rented back to the previous owner on a 364 day tenancy.
 
I'm a district councillor and what you're saying is just nonsense. The new homes bonus doesn't exist anymore and any additional monies (section 106 or equivalent) are tied to projects, often not related to the council but instead allocated to the police, GP surgery etc. I never look at a house and think "that is tax income", any homes I see I think about the family that will live there and the contribution they'll make to the community.

A lot of the homes in the South West are second homes or holiday homes. What contribution are the families there making to the community other than being dormant most of the time?

Of course the council rake in more tax from more homes, let's not be daft here. Yes, the money is siphoned off in the form of section 106 but that is still money being spent in the locality of which the council indirectly benefit.

Don't you ever look at a new housing scheme and think: 'hmmm, that's a load more cars and traffic, educational and healthcare workload, hope there will be extra funding to pay for it all?'.
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
A lot of the homes in the South West are second homes or holiday homes. What contribution are the families there making to the community other than being dormant most of the time?

Of course the council rake in more tax from more homes, let's not be daft here. Yes, the money is siphoned off in the form of section 106 but that is still money being spent in the locality of which the council indirectly benefit.

Don't you ever look at a new housing scheme and think: 'hmmm, that's a load more cars and traffic, educational and healthcare workload, hope there will be extra funding to pay for it all?'.
Got to be locals profiteering or cashing in the homes to start with too???
 

pellow

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Location
Newquay
Cornwall Council has threatened using compulsory purchase for housing before to pressure landowners into selling to developers, not sure they have ever actually used it
 

grass man

Member
In the 70s my family had some land compulsory purchased for social housing and they built a small estate. The tenants wrecked the new houses and some were burnt down. About 20 years later the council demolished the remaining houses. The family were waiting patiently to have the ground offered back to them, I think from memory it has to be offered back if within 25 years of compulsory purchase. 26 years later the council offered the land for sale and sold the land to private developers for millions
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
I think it depends on the circumstances and how much compensation you get for it.

Perhaps a hybrid system, if you bought it, grafted and paid for it, NO but if you inherited it, YES, with fair compensation and a genuine reason for its purchase.


Can you tell I don't own land? :eek: :sorry:
 
I think it depends on the circumstances and how much compensation you get for it.

Perhaps a hybrid system, if you bought it, grafted and paid for it, NO but if you inherited it, YES, with fair compensation and a genuine reason for its purchase.


Can you tell I don't own land? :eek: :sorry:
Here it's the percentage of land acquired as the same percentage of the previous government valuation and not what the land would be worth if local government would let you subdivid it.
There's a local property owner not far from here who has has land taken under the Public Works Act twice, guess how many times he's been stitched up....🤔😡
 

thorpe

Member
In the 70s my family had some land compulsory purchased for social housing and they built a small estate. The tenants wrecked the new houses and some were burnt down. About 20 years later the council demolished the remaining houses. The family were waiting patiently to have the ground offered back to them, I think from memory it has to be offered back if within 25 years of compulsory purchase. 26 years later the council offered the land for sale and sold the land to private developers for millions
b4stards!
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
In the 70s my family had some land compulsory purchased for social housing and they built a small estate. The tenants wrecked the new houses and some were burnt down. About 20 years later the council demolished the remaining houses. The family were waiting patiently to have the ground offered back to them, I think from memory it has to be offered back if within 25 years of compulsory purchase. 26 years later the council offered the land for sale and sold the land to private developers for millions
I think Crichel Down rules would have meant your family would have had to pay the market price for it back anyway
 

Jrp221

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Suppose this is to add to the 1000’s of planned new homes near Truro. Not sure where they are going to build us a new hospital as what we have cannot cope already.
 

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