Same Iron/Deutz Agrotron 150 - How to grease front axle pivot?

box

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Livestock Farmer
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NZ
Afternoon
I can't quite figure this one out and the manual doesn't tell me.

How do I grease the front axle pivot? I've found one grease nipple on the RH side for the front pivot point but I can't figure out how to get grease into the rear one. It looks like it's had grease in it at some point.

No suspension.

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While I'm here, are there any other hidden grease nipples around that I should know about? I've just freed up the prop shaft and greased the splines in there. Is it a good idea to fit grease nipples to the brake linkage thing on the back end or does it just get all gummed up?
 

Scots_Knight

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
If it's like my Deutz which it will be there's just one grease nipple at the front, the grease then flows back.

I had a real fight last time I greased it, had it lifted up but grease would only come out the front.

I was getting other work done with a mechanic here and he thought we might try pulling the axle forward with a ratchet strap, we didn't do this but somehow when we tried greasing, it worked without lifting either.

I had previously had nipple of and poked wire in but that probably did nothing.

Good luck it's a pain.

Well done on propshaft splines that can cause a serious problems as I learned from a former Deutz owner at an open day, I went home and greased mine possibly for the first time :oops:

Brake linkage can seize up, I never leave the handbrake on in the shed, I last loosened with Wd40 not sure that grease there would be a good idea but I'm no expert.

Don't ever grease the stabiliser turnbuckles, did it once, OMG what a big mistake grease and soil make a form of "concrete" 😭I wash out and put oil on the threads but they can be a pain when they seize 😢
 

box

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Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
Appreciate the words of wisdom.

I wonder if drilling a hole in the housing and adding a second grease nipple to the rear pivot is a bad idea? (it would probably result something similar to the Deutz brake test tractor) The grease pours out of the front, nothing comes out the back at all.

Re. the stabilisers, I feel your pain, my stabilisers and height adjusters are all seized up. Life was better before they fitted grease nipples to such devices.
 

Scots_Knight

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
I very much doubt my words could be classified as wisdom 🤣

Thanks anyway 👍

Maybe a second grease nipple would be a good thing but that sort of stuff is way beyond my limited skills.

I tried a couple of times to get grease to come out the back but was loosing the will to live to be honest.

The last time I even broke the grease nipple and when the mechanic was here I got another one on but we managed to get it to work, it is possible honest.

Like I said lifted tractor up, I've front linkage and a telescopic with a strong strap, took of nipple and poked wire and tried to get some wd40 in, I had it several feet of ground hoping for gravity to help.

Yet seemed to work ok without very much bother when the mechanic was here.

My lift arms are set and their not going anywhere, perfect I'm sure 😂

Give it a few tries maybe the ratchet idea, let us know how you get on 👍
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
I've had three Deutz with those brake linkages. After having to repeatedly knock the handbrake off with a bit of wood until it slackened off on the first one, I fitted grease nipple's to them all!

Just drill through the collar and don't worry about the point going into the cross shaft, the nipple threads won't be that deep, and it gives the tap somewhere to go cutting the threads

A single pump of grease every 50h or so and there was never any bother. Never understood why Deutz didn't fit them in the factory!

Axle on my first one didn't have suspension like yours. Used to lift it of the ground with the loader, then get an "assistant" to rock the axle as I pumped grease into the pivot. It had a hard life with a big front loader, and last I heard it was still going strong at over 20yo

Top link, stabaliser and drop arm threads should only ever get light oil, or left dry, NEVER grease 😱 as already said, it sets like concrete
 

box

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Livestock Farmer
Location
NZ
Thanks, I'll give the front axle a jiggle around and see if I can't get grease to pump through to the back. Seems silly to not have a 2nd grease nipple.
 

Scots_Knight

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Thanks, I'll give the front axle a jiggle around and see if I can't get grease to pump through to the back. Seems silly to not have a 2nd grease nipple.
Completely agree but I suppose it's fine when it's new.

Not much of a picture but had to show the mechanic that day that we were getting grease, never in human history has a little bit of grease made someone so happy 😂

Sad but true which I bet you can understand 🤣
 

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laich

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For axle, steer full lock to right ,then reverse tractor back a little bit. If there is play in bushes, this creates, a gap on grease nipple side and axle will slide on pin, closing gap at front, where grease is coming out.

Fitting grease nipples to handbrake cross shaft, is a very common modification. They are quite common to seize up. Deutz , actually, it will be ZF,who build the transmission, now fit grease nipples, from new. It only tok about 20 years of Agrotron production, before they introduced it. Can't remember if it was , M series or newer 6 series , that started coming out with them fitted.

Another part that can seize up , is the handbrake pivot, lever on the slave cylinder/actuator on top of half shaft housing. Usually the RH side one, it quite often gets buried , by sand or straw.

Usually, give them a good soak, with penetrating fluid or ATF. Then using the 19mm adjustment nut on handbrake rod, pull handrake linkage fully up, then slacken nut, fully off, then tap it back off. Lube and repeat until freed off.
 

laich

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The 4wd shaft, grease nipple is the most important one on the tractor. If spline seizes, it puts pressure on the bearing on , where it comes out of casing. Bearing wears and allows shaft to drop. In extreme cases,if left too long, the other end of the shaft will wear into the bore of the transmission casing. Then it is gearbox out and new casing required. Casing used to be about seven grand , to buy.
 

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