Life after cows

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Again, thanks for all the thought provoking answers. Sharefarming could be very interesting but I hear fraught with problems if u get the wrong share. The person I'm thinking about wanted to secure the future of their farm for successive new entrants, whereas a share farmer hopes one day to own it

Anything involving people is fraught with problems.

I picked the wrong landlord last year, and it cost me £50k+.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
So, another related question.If you had no succesion, and wanted / were able to leave the farm to an organsation that would guarantee to maintain it as a farm and use it like a tenant farm to give keen youngsters a chance to get on the ladder ... which organisation would you choose / trust? I''ve read of people who have left estates to the National Trust with conditions attached re hunting etc, who's wishes have then been ignored / overturned or the estate sold for the cash .. so who would you trust? some that spring to mind .. Addington Fund .. RABDF... Duchy of Cornwall .. RABI...

Why not get a youngster in now, train them but let them have a go too? Then leave it all to them?
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Try Ernest Cook Trust, they do have an environmental/countryside learning focus and recently stepped in to save Newton Rigg's farm. https://ernestcooktrust.org.uk/news/2021/07/were-buying-a-farm/

They are a large charity founded on the wealth of the Thomas Cook family from Leicestershire. They own several estates - one close to me - with commercial tenanted farms but their educational focus adds other things eg a local learning centre offers free school visits to the farms, guided by their employed education officer. They are keen to promote traditional countryside management and encourage young people. As yet, they do not have a 'woke' agenda other than the traditional focus on balanced land management.
They seem quite good,and largely under the radar. Did they buy the Newton Rigg dairy as well ? If not,its a pity.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
When your world has revolved around cows for many years, when you have reared all the calves and built a beautiful pedigree herd virtually from scratch, when everything is arranged around time and milking etc, when non farming interests are zilch, when friends are non existent because you lead such a solo life ...am I the only one who finds the prospect of life without cows both scarey and sad? How have others here handled it? Gradually. Keeping the youngstock and selling as calving in? Could be expensive with no milk cheque and nit every heifer
I stopped milking 17 years ago,and have never really adjusted. Not a day goes by that i miss them and milking,the life discipline they bring,and obviously the milk cheque/cash flow. I would go back in tomorrow if i could get a milk buyer. The only benefit i had was spending much more time with my two kids,as had them later in life. Just got sucklers and sheep now,but still regard myself as semi retired for these last 17 years.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
At 37 you're not young anymore...
I'm in my late fifties and I'm young

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Location
East Mids
They seem quite good,and largely under the radar. Did they buy the Newton Rigg dairy as well ? If not,its a pity.
No, that was sold separately https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/19525491.new-buyer-found-college-site/.
ECT have always owned land (and have a fair commercial urban portfolio as well) and the rentals fund their charitable arm, which used to give quite a range of grants to a range of causes, but broadly to promote / support education linked to the arts or rural life / environment. They have had a recent change of focus and the arts bit seems to be less important to the current Trustees.
 

CORNFLAKE

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
In some respects I have found it more of a tie without the cows than when we had them. Admittedly we have a bit of free time on Sunday afternoons and don’t have to clock watch so much but work still has to be done. When we had the cows we had a rota and relief Milker and knew which weekend we would be off, which days we were on mornings or afternoons. Now nobody works for us so we haven’t got quite the freedom to do other things as we still have livestock.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
A few years ago, there was a programme on S4C about a farmer in Ffarmers, who semi retired and and found a young farmer from Llangadog who share farmed the farm. I have no idea how it went.

I think it used to be a common way for young people to start milking in NZ, I think start with share farming not owning the cows, and gradually buy the cows etc. I was told about that when I was over there (but it was over 35 years ago, so with the increase in costs it may not happen any more).
It still happens and is a good progression for young farmers to get on the farming ladder and end up owning their own farm, not as easy as it once was but still possible.
 

Hanspree

Member
Location
Lancashire
Resurrecting this thread as getting into bit situation, maybe not the best place to post, but I have read the Dairy farm for sale thread and there is some scary thoughts from people on there.
We are getting to a stage where wondering what to do, own 170 acre, rent 100acre, rear our own youngstock, milking 150 cows through 3 robots and just me and the misses both 46 and 2 young kids of 11 and 7.
Both my parents have passed away in the last 4 years so it is just the 4 of us trying to run a farm and spend time with the kids to have a life.
While everything on the farm is going well we are working hard to do it and are at breaking point as I have a family to look after and bring up as well.
So many people are telling me to pack in milking and slow down and get a life before something gives, your only here once.
The scary thing is this is all i've done and its worrying thinking about finding another job out there.
Do we rear hfrs?
Rent the farm out?
Or do we sell the farm buy a nice house and enjoy life?
Other than ring Samaritans any thoughts??? thanks
 
Resurrecting this thread as getting into bit situation, maybe not the best place to post, but I have read the Dairy farm for sale thread and there is some scary thoughts from people on there.
We are getting to a stage where wondering what to do, own 170 acre, rent 100acre, rear our own youngstock, milking 150 cows through 3 robots and just me and the misses both 46 and 2 young kids of 11 and 7.
Both my parents have passed away in the last 4 years so it is just the 4 of us trying to run a farm and spend time with the kids to have a life.
While everything on the farm is going well we are working hard to do it and are at breaking point as I have a family to look after and bring up as well.
So many people are telling me to pack in milking and slow down and get a life before something gives, your only here once.
The scary thing is this is all i've done and its worrying thinking about finding another job out there.
Do we rear hfrs?
Rent the farm out?
Or do we sell the farm buy a nice house and enjoy life?
Other than ring Samaritans any thoughts??? thanks
170 acres, 150 cows flying herd. 3 robots. Job done. I bet you spend as much time on ys as you do cows, @pappuller is 3 bots and 150 cows flying. He seems to have time to think
 

farmboy

Member
Location
Dorset
Resurrecting this thread as getting into bit situation, maybe not the best place to post, but I have read the Dairy farm for sale thread and there is some scary thoughts from people on there.
We are getting to a stage where wondering what to do, own 170 acre, rent 100acre, rear our own youngstock, milking 150 cows through 3 robots and just me and the misses both 46 and 2 young kids of 11 and 7.
Both my parents have passed away in the last 4 years so it is just the 4 of us trying to run a farm and spend time with the kids to have a life.
While everything on the farm is going well we are working hard to do it and are at breaking point as I have a family to look after and bring up as well.
So many people are telling me to pack in milking and slow down and get a life before something gives, your only here once.
The scary thing is this is all i've done and its worrying thinking about finding another job out there.
Do we rear hfrs?
Rent the farm out?
Or do we sell the farm buy a nice house and enjoy life?
Other than ring Samaritans any thoughts??? thanks
Is there not enough money in the job to employ a bit of help?
 

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