i would suggest if your spraying for livestock farms who are not RT for crops, 3 years is fine.
If your spraying for farms who are RT against spraying, you need it 12 monthly
Sprayer MOT cost
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If your spraying for farms who are RT against spraying, you need it 12 monthly
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Another joy of not being in rt anymore…
bravheart
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Only playing devil's advocate here but when you read that list and compare it to an exhaust emissions tester, rolling road brake tester, headlight beam tester and all the other equipment and training/testing required including the premises and paperwork along with a government rate for the job then maybe some of the posters here might have a point.
Suppose the quantity of sprayers re. work for each tester and lack of market forces keeps the price high.
Edit. Didn't know the cost of a sticky label which is always faded away before the next test so next to useless was £28. If the label requirement was done away with do you think the charge be £28 less?
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A car mot tester will definitely be able to spread his/her costs over a larger number of tests. They will do several per day every day. It's also worth bearing in mind that most sprayers are tucked away full of anti freeze in winter. So very few tests can be conducted then.
The stickers do not cost £28. As a tester we have to pay NSTS £28 per test. As part of that a sticker is included.
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No I wouldn't. But I guess it's a service that they have to offer if they are going to get the more profitable repair and service work?
bravheart
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The plot thickens and as I say I'm just playing devil's advocate here as I think testing is probably a good thing but I'm interested in what my hard earned goes towards, so-
Are you saying that along with all the equipment and exams you have to go through to be a tester you have to PAY nsts for the privilege of carrying out a test!
Obviously your in the enviable position of being able to pass that cost on but what do we get for the £28. Seems like a licence to print money for a monopoly to me unless you can advise otherwise.
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Correct.
We used to have to pay for a pad of 10 test sheets and stickers. But now we have to pay for the digital test sheets that are carried out on the i-pad and they post us 10 stickers.
We also have to pay an annual membership fee.
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- Boroughbridge, North Yorkshire
I'm not a fan of red tractor and some of their pointless rules such as Mass balance calculations.
But I do think one of the good things to come out of the scheme is that it has brought a lot of very poorly maintained sprayers up to scratch.
When we startedtesting, some sprayers would be constantly leaking. Pressure gauges wouldn't work. The on/off valve wouldn't work so instead they would just turn the PTO on or off. And something that was unbelievably common..... different sized nozzles across the boom.
We tend to find that usually (not always) the people that quibble a couple of hundred pounds to test a sprayer or ask us "can't you just put a ticket on it"are the ones who resist paying a few hundred pounds to replace warn out nozzles or replace a faulty pressure gauge stating "I know it doesn't say 3 bar but I know where it needs to be to put roughly the right amount on"
But I do think one of the good things to come out of the scheme is that it has brought a lot of very poorly maintained sprayers up to scratch.
When we startedtesting, some sprayers would be constantly leaking. Pressure gauges wouldn't work. The on/off valve wouldn't work so instead they would just turn the PTO on or off. And something that was unbelievably common..... different sized nozzles across the boom.
We tend to find that usually (not always) the people that quibble a couple of hundred pounds to test a sprayer or ask us "can't you just put a ticket on it"are the ones who resist paying a few hundred pounds to replace warn out nozzles or replace a faulty pressure gauge stating "I know it doesn't say 3 bar but I know where it needs to be to put roughly the right amount on"
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No, not unless they have their name on the list.
The Plant Protection Products (Sustainable Use) Regulations 2012
These Regulations, as respects the United Kingdom, transpose Directive 2009/128/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council establishing a framework for Community action to achieve the sustainable use of pesticides (OJ No L309, 24.11.2009, p.71)(“the Directive”) and provide enforcement...
Completely agree re raising the standard of on farm sprayers. Saying that the standard of everything has improved, not many old trailers with no brakes and lights trundling about as their used to be.
Still feel that gold plating the three year EU/UK law to yearly is unecessary when all imports almost without fail will only be tested tri-anually at most.
Might only be a few hundred pounds for a test and of course the opportunity cost of tying a tractor/sprayer and man up for a morning/afternoon, but these things all add up.
Hilly
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Has to go on their own lift in a rate payed garage and covers in dirty water dripping on you and any work done is above your head , bit of prospective for you .
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Well if you want the other side....
Car mechanics don't generally have to test cars outside in wind, rain, mud etc. Cars are also not generally covered or contain chemicals.
You'd be surprised how many people tell you "oh yes, it's had a good wash out" only to find your measuring jug is foaming up, orange or stinking of MCPA.
We once did a testing day for a farmers group when the 3 year tests came in.
The group arranged for the tests to be done at an auction mart. Despite 2 lots of correspondence being sent to them stating the sprayer must be clean AND washed out, not to mention a call to each one of them individually by the lady who was organising the day to remind them of the fact. 4 sprayers turned up containing sheep dip!
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Surely at some point you would be checking the sprayer over yourself so opportunity cost is clutching at straws a bit. Plus you surly get to chose a conveniently quite time to test your sprayer, not in the middle of T1?
Check the sprayer before every use without fail, much sooner find a problem with clean water in the tank than a tank mix of chemical.
Always an opportunity cost, be it work, rest or leisure.
Hilly
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The testing day is always scheduled with a caveat of "weather permitting" from the testers.
I'd much prefer it pi55ing down on the day.
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- Lincolnshire
With the price of chemicals and crops as they are, does anybody seriously believe that anybody would just carry on spraying with leaks or wrong application rates?
For me, sprayer maintenance is a kind of self regulating Darwinism kind of thing surely? You won’t be in business for very long operating a faulty sprayer. And seriously, you wouldn’t wait till the MOT to put faults right would you? If there is leak you have to fix it asap.
It always seems a bit of a farce really.
For me, sprayer maintenance is a kind of self regulating Darwinism kind of thing surely? You won’t be in business for very long operating a faulty sprayer. And seriously, you wouldn’t wait till the MOT to put faults right would you? If there is leak you have to fix it asap.
It always seems a bit of a farce really.