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Disastrous scanning what would you do?
- Thread starter Headless chicken
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Headless chicken
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Daughters christening tomorrow then flying off to Corfu for a few nights. It’s needed! And part of the reason I refuse to have a final tally yet. It can be dealt with when I’m back and a plan put into place. Depressed would be the wrong word for how I felt yesterday but certainly sad
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As I said I can give you the number of the bloke mentioned (Peter b) and I can assure you he’ll be extremely accurate and tell you what he thinks happened as regards lost embryos or just didnt get in calf
His son his also one of the best at ai for genus
Martyn
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I was thinking of you yesterday evening, we have delt with some real sh!t over the last few years and I can honestly say things often happen for a reason and you will look back in time and see what you have learnt.
Farmer Keith
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I’ve always scanned late and can’t say I’ve had any issues, sometimes they’ll say they can’t reach the calf so it’s impossible to put a date on but will absolutely give me a yes/no answer.
Headless chicken
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Yes sorry meant to reply. Send it over please. I know Andrew well. He’s a good guy
Dead Rabbits
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Standard practice in NZ.Apart from he's been asked to pd in the parlour standing on a table.
Headless chicken
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Just to clarify I trust my vets but we all have bad days. How we scan is far from perfect and I know we had about 10 last year scanned empty that calves so stranger things have happened
Farmer Keith
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Food for thought next time, we scan in the parlour but let one in at a time an the vet walks up behind them, says he does a lot like that and works well.
Headless chicken
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As an extension to this thread, what beef bulls are people running that actually stick a bit of walking? We have in the past just been keeping young dairy bulls that calve early in the block but we find they need a fair drop of feed to get them to a tidy size and you need a lot of them as they get tired quick. Positive is their feet seem to stick work much better than a beef bull.
we now have heifers on a dedicate farm with facility to handle bulls and separate etc so the option to keep one or two longer term is available
we now have heifers on a dedicate farm with facility to handle bulls and separate etc so the option to keep one or two longer term is available
To get them in calf and walk and shag and be fine, jersey or xbred.
We use herefords for the calf value, but they are heavy for walking
We use herefords for the calf value, but they are heavy for walking
Headless chicken
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Hereford’s on the spring block too? How would they get on in cubicles?
Fine. Yes herefords everywhere
Spudley
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- Pembrokeshire
With 30 heifers we have one pure Hereford and one Hereford cross bull (keep the oldest born calf each year). The Herefords usually last about 3 years, just get too fat in the end normally and the cross bred is beefed at the end of the summer. The crossbreed regularly gets 2/3 of the heifers in calf but like you say the Hereford calves have a better conformation.
Martyn
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We run Herefords, and have tried several breeds and all too heavy on feet , where jersey and xbred bulls at the end of shagging everything insight, could still try and kill you
, now flying herd beef bulls only and would have a extra bull compared the the dairy bulls
, now flying herd beef bulls only and would have a extra bull compared the the dairy bulls
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Dead Rabbits
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The best beef bulls would be the ones born and raised on your own farm. They would hold up the best.
I just can’t get completely away from jerseys with the heat and walking distances. So we have retained 1/2 bred Herefords which hold together extremely well but obviously are a compromise on calves. Going forward we will try to mostly buy weaned Hereford bulls and raise them.
Bull breeders here are far too eager to pour the grain to a bull and over develop him. I think they need a good first winter then very marginal forage from then on.
I just can’t get completely away from jerseys with the heat and walking distances. So we have retained 1/2 bred Herefords which hold together extremely well but obviously are a compromise on calves. Going forward we will try to mostly buy weaned Hereford bulls and raise them.
Bull breeders here are far too eager to pour the grain to a bull and over develop him. I think they need a good first winter then very marginal forage from then on.
Farmer Keith
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a trait not limited to bull breeders on your side of the pond I can assure you!
Dead Rabbits
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I didn’t physically buy the bulls this year someone else did. I was not happy when I layed one over on the hoof table and found he had mild laminitis. Far too much grain fed to beef animals over here.