Second wheat questions

Flintstone · Jun 23, 2022

I’ve got some second wheat questions:

1. Are there any varieties that are best suited to being a second wheat?

2. Is Latitude needed when a second wheat is drilled as late as January?

3. what kind of seed rates should be used for second wheat drilled in Dec/Jan? I would normally be at around 190 kgs in early October for a first wheat.

4. Is chopped wheat straw from the previous wheat crop a help or a hindrance?

Thanks.

Farma Parma · Jun 23, 2022

i only use SKYFALL with Latitude for peace of mind.
Never drilled in Jan here its v wet at that time of year anyways. nothing drilled here from mid Oct 9/10 years weather says you cant.
Straw baled n cleared from 1st wheat & stubbles just ripped up with heavy cultivator then ph/combi drilled.
Often not rolled, depends on weather.
Seed rates 200kg or slightly more only coz often home saved & just covering mesel

Zippy768 · Jun 23, 2022

Flintstone said:
I’ve got some second wheat questions:

1. Are there any varieties that are best suited to being a second wheat?

2. Is Latitude needed when a second wheat is drilled as late as January?

3. what kind of seed rates should be used for second wheat drilled in Dec/Jan? I would normally be at around 190 kgs in early October for a first wheat.

4. Is chopped wheat straw from the previous wheat crop a help or a hindrance?

Thanks.

Why SO late with the planned drilling?

teslacoils · Jun 23, 2022

Drilling mid Dec I ought to have sown 400kg.

ajd132 · Jun 23, 2022

Latitude is only useful on land that probably shouldn’t be growing a second wheat.

robs1 · Jun 23, 2022

Take all is meant to be less of a problem in a dd situation.

Flat 10 · Jun 23, 2022

Flintstone said:
I’ve got some second wheat questions:

1. Are there any varieties that are best suited to being a second wheat?

2. Is Latitude needed when a second wheat is drilled as late as January?

3. what kind of seed rates should be used for second wheat drilled in Dec/Jan? I would normally be at around 190 kgs in early October for a first wheat.

4. Is chopped wheat straw from the previous wheat crop a help or a hindrance?

Thanks.

The rec lists have a second wheat section. Good resistance to eyespot is useful, If I was drilling wheat after beet in dec jan i'd be circa 300kgs after beet. I can't grow second wheat.

Will 1594 · Jun 23, 2022

Flat 10 said:
The rec lists have a second wheat section. Good resistance to eyespot is useful, If I was drilling wheat after beet in dec jan i'd be circa 300kgs after beet. I can't grow second wheat.

Did that this time 300 kg after beet ,mid january , will take pics when go for irrigator , mind its on black and silt , but was mauled in ,and had heavy rain after drilling , not the usuall crop
fire fly ,
and got some second and continuos wheat down there too

Salopian_Will · Jun 23, 2022

ajd132 said:
Latitude is only useful on land that probably shouldn’t be growing a second wheat.

ADAS/HGCA research would suggest otherwise. The soils in the area where this study was done is not heavy land (silty clay) but sufficient body for second wheats.

Take-all control with silthiofam (Latitude); Economic implications from a six-year rotation experiment | AHDB

ahdb.org.uk

Flat 10 · Jun 23, 2022

Will 1594 said:
Did that this time 300 kg after beet ,mid january , will take pics when go for irrigator , mind its on black and silt , but was mauled in ,and had heavy rain after drilling , not the usuall crop
fire fly ,
and got some second and continuos wheat down there too

i did the same with firefly and it was horrible. i've given up with it. Firefly that is

Poncherello1976 · Jun 23, 2022

I have just ordered some Dawsum for going in as a second wheat. I have ordered it with Latitude on it. It will be planted Middle of October all being well, hopefully DD.

Will 1594 · Jun 23, 2022

Flat 10 said:
i did the same with firefly and it was horrible. i've given up with it. Firefly that is

look on nature of the fens on f b
lad did drone pics of sluice and got the fields in question in shots
the wheat is cracking , looks super

Gill Horse · Jun 23, 2022

Is zyatt suitable as a second wheat?

APJ · Jun 23, 2022

Got Dawsum here as a first won’t hesitate to use it as a second wheat, very vigours come spring and tillers like crazy. Be well north of 250kg/ha that time of yr. @Flintstone are you happy with your drill choice after?

dirty harry · Jun 23, 2022

Gill Horse said:
Is zyatt suitable as a second wheat?

Yes

DRC · Jun 23, 2022

dirty harry said:
Yes

It’ll be full of rust
Gleam is a good second wheat here

Clive · Jun 23, 2022

Grown some 2nd wheats here this year for the first time in a while, reminded me why we don’t, they are not good crops !

seems occasionally we all need reminding why we do or don’t do the things we do !

Farma Parma · Jun 23, 2022

Clive said:
Grown some 2nd wheats here this year for the first time in a while, reminded me why we don’t, they are not good crops !

seems occasionally we all need reminding why we do or don’t do the things we do !

got some canny ones up here
one as good as the 1st wheat was last year so far anyways.
Till the land it makes all the difference

Clive · Jun 23, 2022

Farma Parma said:
got some canny ones up here
one as good as the 1st wheat was last year so far anyways.
Till the land it makes all the difference

nothing to do with tillage or no tillage, 2nd wheats were just as rubbish here when we used to plough

some soils are just not suited to them

Farma Parma · Jun 23, 2022

Clive said:
nothing to do with tillage or no tillage, 2nd wheats were just as rubbish here when we used to plough

some soils are just not suited to them

Bugger i thought i had one on ya there for a min

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