Foot & Mouth

They were called MAFF werent they , then after that fiasco they rebranded as defra and hoped folk would just forget everything and carry on as though nothing had happened
We used to have a (M)inistry of (A)griculture, (F)isheries and (F)ood - Nowadays the “Environment” is seen as more important than making food available at a price that the underclasses are able to afford because of the artificially high accommodation costs.
 
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topground

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Somerset.
They've known for years there was a shortage of vets and have done f**k all about it. Oh other than Brexit which made it worse.
Using Vets for checking food imports is nonsense brought about by the EU not understanding the qualifications and training required to be an Environmental Health Officer, Meat Inspector or Trading Standards Officer.
Five years training following top grades at A level means Vets are vastly over qualified for this work and undertrained since most of their training is designed to identify disease and treat to cure sick animals.
Taking back control should mean training folk for the task required not using Vets for a job that does not require Veterinary skills.
 
Using Vets for checking food imports is nonsense brought about by the EU not understanding the qualifications and training required to be an Environmental Health Officer, Meat Inspector or Trading Standards Officer.
Five years training following top grades at A level means Vets are vastly over qualified for this work and undertrained since most of their training is designed to identify disease and treat to cure sick animals.
Taking back control should mean training folk for the task required not using Vets for a job that does not require Veterinary skills.
Aye fine, but they're not doing that either, are they? Basically they don't want any impediment on what they currently bring in and don't want to implement anything to curb that.
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
They've known for years there was a shortage of vets and have done f**k all about it. Oh other than Brexit which made it worse.
Blame the Royal college of veterinary surgeons.
A friend was saying their daughter was applying to go to Uni to study 100 applicants, but only 5 places due to restrictions by the Royal college. Plenty of people wanting to get qualified, but the old guard stopping them.
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
After 5 years of uni the fresh vets don’t want to work in slaughterhouses or checkpoints! Hell there is an alarming number of them aren’t even in the profession 10 years later. The unis are churning vet grads out hundreds a year. Yet they are always short of vets.
 

Old Tip

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Location
Cumbria
Blame the Royal college of veterinary surgeons.
A friend was saying their daughter was applying to go to Uni to study 100 applicants, but only 5 places due to restrictions by the Royal college. Plenty of people wanting to get qualified, but the old guard stopping them.
Think it’s more a case they get a lot more lolly from the foreign students so limited places for the native ones
 

beardface

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Location
East Yorkshire
I don't believe it as they're the same staff that have to do all the checks for export

Yes but now all food coming into and out of this country is subject to the same checks. My local vets took on another vet solely to help reduce the workload. We simply don't have enough staff to check all goods, not just food but other goods which now require checks. I voted brexit and would do again, but this is one area we massively miscalculated. Can easily see ASF hitting the south of England before the years out. We also never had the best phytosanitary measures to third countries when we were in the block either, so it was never going to suddenly get any better.
 

beardface

Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Using Vets for checking food imports is nonsense brought about by the EU not understanding the qualifications and training required to be an Environmental Health Officer, Meat Inspector or Trading Standards Officer.
Five years training following top grades at A level means Vets are vastly over qualified for this work and undertrained since most of their training is designed to identify disease and treat to cure sick animals.
Taking back control should mean training folk for the task required not using Vets for a job that does not require Veterinary skills.

I've never understood why you can't just train an average Joe to be an environment health officer.
 
our next door neighbour is a retired vet. He went of assisting the ministry vets in 01. He reckons you wouldn’t believe what they were told in the briefings. He went too one farm, lambs had a touch of scald. Nothing too worry about. No visible lesions of salivation at all. Next day a fresh out of uni vet went too the same farm, condemned the lot. Pete tried arguing that those animals were perfectly healthy. Was told too sit down and do as he was told. That triggered a contagious cull around that farm. Non tested positive. Another farm the tup had been at the rolled barley then gone out into the field and laid out with bloat, frothing at the mouth. Pete went too it, let it down and it got up and trotted off. Again a young fresh out of uni vet reported it as salivation due too F&M. The bosses weren’t interested in ANY diagnosis other than F&M. Pete only stuck it 5 weeks then came back too his practise. He said it was mass murder, not controlled culling. 🤬🤬
Not trying to be smart here, but a lot of the problem in 2001 was the lack of ministry vets and being active vets, instead of pen pushers and all the young vets had no experience of day to day work and no common sense.
 

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