Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Chuma wumba.

Great lyrics.❤️
Songs like that keep me going. I surf through YouTube and find all the songs of my college days etc and I feel better.
The Mrs has calmed down a lot. The chemo seems to affect her mood quite drastically.
She is still convinced I’m having an affair with somebody. Chance would be a fine thing! But she isn’t leaving now, which is something.
Today I spent my time in the shed fitting new wearing metal to the plough. It’s needed doing for six months and finally I’ve got round to it. A good job to do, undisturbed on a quiet Sunday.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Songs like that keep me going. I surf through YouTube and find all the songs of my college days etc and I feel better.
The Mrs has calmed down a lot. The chemo seems to affect her mood quite drastically.
She is still convinced I’m having an affair with somebody. Chance would be a fine thing! But she isn’t leaving now, which is something.
Today I spent my time in the shed fitting new wearing metal to the plough. It’s needed doing for six months and finally I’ve got round to it. A good job to do, undisturbed on a quiet Sunday.
I finished my plough on Friday. It was needing a lot of metal too.
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
Songs like that keep me going. I surf through YouTube and find all the songs of my college days etc and I feel better.
The Mrs has calmed down a lot. The chemo seems to affect her mood quite drastically.
She is still convinced I’m having an affair with somebody. Chance would be a fine thing! But she isn’t leaving now, which is something.
Today I spent my time in the shed fitting new wearing metal to the plough. It’s needed doing for six months and finally I’ve got round to it. A good job to do, undisturbed on a quiet Sunday.
You can't beat the sanctuary of the workshop
 

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David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Songs like that keep me going. I surf through YouTube and find all the songs of my college days etc and I feel better.
The Mrs has calmed down a lot. The chemo seems to affect her mood quite drastically.
She is still convinced I’m having an affair with somebody. Chance would be a fine thing! But she isn’t leaving now, which is something.
Today I spent my time in the shed fitting new wearing metal to the plough. It’s needed doing for six months and finally I’ve got round to it. A good job to do, undisturbed on a quiet Sunday.
I find looking back at stuff from my college days makes me unhappy.
Think it's mainly the desire to reach back 40 years and give that young idiot such a kicking. The opportunity that lay before all of us :(.
Apologies, I ought not to chip in here without first taking a moment to acknowledge and sympathise with the awful time you and your wife appear to be having.
 
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Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Has anybody else found themselves reaching a certain age where they have become Pre-diabetic?
Covid aside, normal ‘Mens MOT’s’ have begone again, During which a blood test is done called HbA1c that measures blood sugar levels.
The normal level is below 41. But if you are between 42 and 47, you are classed as Pre-diabetic, which means it can be reversed before you become fully type 2 diabetic.

This involves minor changes to diet and exercise to reduce carb intake that your pancreas struggles to produce enough Insulin to keep blood sugar levels down. As we get older, our Pancreases can’t produce as much insulin and when we were younger.

HOWEVER, this is not the whole story:
40% of it is caused by stress levels. The stress hormone Cortisol is an Insulin inhibitor.

You can only do an HbA1c test every three months because in takes that long for changes to become noticeable.
I’ve been doing a Xyla Heathcare course, which is very interesting and very good in explaining the what’s and why’s about it all, especially explaining about how to lower stress levels.

I was a 44, have lost about a stone in weight and definitely do more exercise than I used to.
On Tuesday I went for another Hb1AC test and it had gone up to 45!!

The reason being that after a good weather forecast last weekend I had cut all my hay ground. Only to watch another forecast on Tuesday morning which predicted rain on Thursday.
This undoubtedly raised my stress levels sky high.

It was almost enough for me to reach for the Mars bars again!!

We have agreed not to do any more tests until things have slowed down in the Autumn!
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
My maternal grandfather was diagnosed with diabetes at 60 but wouldn’t follow the prescribed regime. Died at 66 from kidney failure after collapsing amongst the beast. His last words were “put the kettle on.” They discovered he’d bust his collar bone at some point in his life but it had healed naturally.
I sometimes wonder if it’s best to crack on in ignorance given that the NHS can seem to do sweet FA about anything even when you are diagnosed other than offer treatments that in my Mrs case amount to medieval torture.
My eye sight is getting worse, but so far I’ve managed with off the shelf specs from the supermarket. I’ve very little faith in the quacks in town, and after the way our wonderful NHS hacked about my father and left him for dead and are now hacking about my Mrs, I won’t be rushing to them for that kind of “help” any time soon. When your numbers up it’s up, in my view. Time to rest and be thankful. Who wants to die aged 110 in a pee soaked armchair in Skegness?
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
My maternal grandfather was diagnosed with diabetes at 60 but wouldn’t follow the prescribed regime. Died at 66 from kidney failure after collapsing amongst the beast. His last words were “put the kettle on.” They discovered he’d bust his collar bone at some point in his life but it had healed naturally.
I sometimes wonder if it’s best to crack on in ignorance given that the NHS can seem to do sweet FA about anything even when you are diagnosed other than offer treatments that in my Mrs case amount to medieval torture.
My eye sight is getting worse, but so far I’ve managed with off the shelf specs from the supermarket. I’ve very little faith in the quacks in town, and after the way our wonderful NHS hacked about my father and left him for dead and are now hacking about my Mrs, I won’t be rushing to them for that kind of “help” any time soon. When your numbers up it’s up, in my view. Time to rest and be thankful. Who wants to die aged 110 in a pee soaked armchair in Skegness?
That is very understandable. Especially in your situation.

Most Doctors and Practice Nurses realise that Farmers are very stubborn and won’t go and to the Doctor unless there really is something wrong.

However, might I suggest that you do go and get your eyes properly tested?
You might find it is free of charge. But almost certainly you will find that one eye is worse than the other, which off-the -shelf glasses cannot cope with and will make worse!
Diabetes or Pre-diabetes can often result in poor eyesight or accelerated eye site failure, making you feel more tired than usual, which in itself worsens the entire situation.

Good sets of properly prescribed reading and a set of distance glasses can make a difference and will certainly help.
In our situation on farms, I’d suggest a really good frame and toughened lenses to reduce scratch levels and on the distance glasses photo-reactive lenses that darken during sunlight too.

I recently did this and my eyes are so much more comfortable now.
Normally they want to test your eyes every 2 years, but I recently found that I needed to go back sooner, probably as a result of the pre-diabetes. Never before have my new, latest glasses made such a difference to my life!
Especially now we seem to spend a fair bit of time in front of computer screens (on TFF!).
 
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Crofter64

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Quebec, Canada
My maternal grandfather was diagnosed with diabetes at 60 but wouldn’t follow the prescribed regime. Died at 66 from kidney failure after collapsing amongst the beast. His last words were “put the kettle on.” They discovered he’d bust his collar bone at some point in his life but it had healed naturally.
I sometimes wonder if it’s best to crack on in ignorance given that the NHS can seem to do sweet FA about anything even when you are diagnosed other than offer treatments that in my Mrs case amount to medieval torture.
My eye sight is getting worse, but so far I’ve managed with off the shelf specs from the supermarket. I’ve very little faith in the quacks in town, and after the way our wonderful NHS hacked about my father and left him for dead and are now hacking about my Mrs, I won’t be rushing to them for that kind of “help” any time soon. When your numbers up it’s up, in my view. Time to rest and be thankful. Who wants to die aged 110 in a pee soaked armchair in Skegness?
‘Put the kettle on’. I hope those are my last words too. They’re always a comfort and what you think of doing when there’s a tricky situation to deal with.
 

FG.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Wiltshire
Seriously though, if check ups are offered, take them. It could save your life or at least avoid an untimely end.👍
Good advise.
I was offered a 'health check up' in June 2012 at the local gp.
Thought I was fine.
That evening, someone from the hospital blood testing department rang and said, can I come in, in the morning to be tested again.
Well, my reds, whites and platelets level were not good. Seriously not good.
Anyway turns out I had a very rare form of leukaemia.
That explained my aching legs, constantly having bruises and always seemed to have a cold.
 
Good advise.
I was offered a 'health check up' in June 2012 at the local gp.
Thought I was fine.
That evening, someone from the hospital blood testing department rang and said, can I come in, in the morning to be tested again.
Well, my reds, whites and platelets level were not good. Seriously not good.

Anyway turns out I had a very rare form of leukemia.
That explained my aching legs, constantly having bruises and always seemed to have a cold.

What prognosis were you given at the time of the diagnosis of leukemia and what is your present standing?
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
That is very understandable. Especially in your situation.

Most Doctors and Practice Nurses realise that Farmers are very stubborn and won’t go and to the Doctor unless there really is something wrong.

However, might I suggest that you do go and get your eyes properly tested?
You might find it is free of charge. But almost certainly you will find that one eye is worse than the other, which off-the -shelf glasses cannot cope with and will make worse!
Diabetes or Pre-diabetes can often result in poor eyesight or accelerated eye site failure, making you feel more tired than usual, which in itself worsens the entire situation.

Good sets of properly prescribed reading and a set distance glasses can make a difference and will certainly help.
In our situation on farms, I’d suggest a really good frame and toughened lenses to reduce scratch levels and on the distance glasses photo-reactive lenses that darken during sunlight too.

I recently did this and my eyes are so much more comfortable now.
Normally they want to test your eyes every 2 years, but I recently found that I needed to go back sooner, probably as a result of the pre-diabetes. Never before have my new, latest glasses made such a difference to my life!
Especially now we seem to spend a fair bit of time in front of computer screens (on TFF!).

i had my first eye test for many years in march. Also ordered my first photo réactive lenses as the sun is very bright here.
combining the barley on an incredibly hot and sunny day I thought I would give them a go. Looking out at the crop feeding was great… but I couldn’t see anything inside the cab at all 🙄😂
 

FG.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Wiltshire
What prognosis were you given at the time of the diagnosis of leukemia and what is your present standing?
Consultant was quite positive and said I needed to start chemo asap.
2012 was a challenging harvest year and I said I couldn't start for a couple of months, which he wasn't very happy about.
Treatment was challenging, but nearly 10 years on we're doing ok.
I do suffer with fatigue from time to time, which I have to be a little careful with.
 

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