Milk Price Tracker

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I think most processors will just pay their farmers less

As soon as the markets turn south again recruitment will stop and everyone will be stuck with whichever processor they are with. If either Arla/liquid processors/manufacturing processors are paying 5ppl more than others it will just be tough for the rest of us
They may pay less but will the keep them?
At the moment there are choices.

As I have said previously, Bank managers and umbrellas.
 

kill

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South West
Broiler farmers are don't pay for the feed or poults, and they get a payment based on results.
Actually it was some egg producers I was talking to and they do actually purchase their feed separately and said how slowly their payments lagged behind rising costs and how lucky we are to have a positivite driving force leading dairy’s pricing structure.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
That ,s surely a reflection of how well Arla have managed their business and how badly OMSCO have theirs
with the cost of living crisis, how well will the organic customer base,, cope with the higher price, for many current organic buyers, its a 'fad' thing. Am l right in saying, omsco, only pay organic price, on a proportion of your production, quite happy to be proved wrong.
 
The Arla price is a European based milk price not UK based price,hence why it in front of everyone else. Their European price is being diluted by the UK return.

IMHO I think the milk price will cause casualties in the processing industry.

Comventional cheese returns were down 9% on the last GDT round.
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Broiler farmers are don't pay for the feed or poults, and they get a payment based on results.
I disagree. AMPE sits at 52-55, UK spot price is around 55ppl and the UK cheese, butter and skim markets are similar. The thing holding UK prices back has been the supermarkets, and they are having to recognise the new reality.
 
I disagree. AMPE sits at 52-55, UK spot price is around 55ppl and the UK cheese, butter and skim markets are similar. The thing holding UK prices back has been the supermarkets, and they are having to recognise the new reality.
Careful. Would prefer the use of the term “current reality”
“New reality” suggests something that will go on and on.
 
Johnes monitoring, quarterly BCS/cleanliness/mobility scoring and filling out an annual climate check survey aren’t exactly massive hurdles are they???

I’m quite happy doing all of the above for an extra 7.5ppl :)
What makes it worse is my milk is lifted by an Arla tanker. I’m just basic RT assurance no extras and I doubt very much that milk will be separated from the Arla high fliers in terms of farm assurance. Makes a bit of a mockery of it all!
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Actually it was some egg producers I was talking to and they do actually purchase their feed separately and said how slowly their payments lagged behind rising costs and how lucky we are to have a positivite driving force leading dairy’s pricing structure.
Always good to be specific, vast difference even within sectors

That ,s surely a reflection of how well Arla have managed their business and how badly OMSCO have theirs

Do Arla pay the top price on the continent as well?


No but if you don't ring up and ask you will never find out. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Sitting here doing nothing is easy.
Oh I agree, can tell alot when you enquire
with the cost of living crisis, how well will the organic customer base,, cope with the higher price, for many current organic buyers, its a 'fad' thing. Am l right in saying, omsco, only pay organic price, on a proportion of your production, quite happy to be proved wrong.
Incorrect.

Organic veg has seen less of a dip in sales than conventional.

Milk sales are staying firm

I disagree. AMPE sits at 52-55, UK spot price is around 55ppl and the UK cheese, butter and skim markets are similar. The thing holding UK prices back has been the supermarkets, and they are having to recognise the new reality.

GDT cheese has been on a downward trajectory for a while.
Spot is a small small volume and varies week to week. What was spot when Arla were dumping milk last week on farm?

The supermarkets have definitely got their heads buried somewhere , just look at Heinz.
Have any processor's done this?
Can only do it with brands, perhaps Arla should continue to "lead"?
 

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
Always good to be specific, vast difference even within sectors



Do Arla pay the top price on the continent as well?



Oh I agree, can tell alot when you enquire

Incorrect.

Organic veg has seen less of a dip in sales than conventional.

Milk sales are staying firm



GDT cheese has been on a downward trajectory for a while.
Spot is a small small volume and varies week to week. What was spot when Arla were dumping milk last week on farm?

The supermarkets have definitely got their heads buried somewhere , just look at Heinz.
Have any processor's done this?
Can only do it with brands, perhaps Arla should continue to "lead"?
Are Organic milk sales staying firm or is it the fact so many producers are dropping out of the organic sector due to unsustainable pricing that the milk available to milk requirements aren't to far adrift?🤔
 
Do Arla pay the top price on the continent as well?


Can only do it with brands, perhaps Arla should continue to "lead"?
In general, yes currently Arla are ahead with the exception of the extreme commodity producers which shows where the markets are currently. In relation to the comment about "perhaps Arla should continue to lead"- what do you think Arla is trying to do, social media is full of complaints about Lurpak pricing and Cravendale price has also significantly increased along with our other brands.

In relation to milk dumping, if the biggest UK dairy goes down even for part of a day trying to shift milk around the country is difficult. Given only a small number of farms ended up being asked to dump milk rather shows how strong demand currently is.

Given you are obviously well informed, I really cannot see why you seem to think Arla is so useless and incompetent. I know Arla is not perfect but the employees do a tremendous job for the farmers who own it and along with the farmer directors try to follow the mission statement. "Our mission is to secure the highest value for our farmers' milk while creating opportunities for their growth"
 

Jdunn55

Member
And despite these apparently fantastic prices...
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