Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

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Cleveland
Be worth more than £0 though 😉 I’m purely just trying to work out a way too include some form of cattle enterprise into my business plan, I am not milking cows I’d rather shoot myself so I’m purely just looking at options…
Well you’re buying an animal at its dearest and selling it at its cheapest. You can’t value a year old hereford x dairy very easily because some are ok and some are pure sh!te
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Well you’re buying an animal at its dearest and selling it at its cheapest. You can’t value a year old hereford x dairy very easily because some are ok and some are pure sh!te
The place id buy them from breeds pretty good calves, they leave calves on the cows, no jerseys either all Holstein crosses… just bouncing ideas around really…
If you were too start a cattle enterprise how would you do it? I’m not really in a position too have the outlay that calves to finished cattle takes what ever I did I’d need money back from it within 12 months really..
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
I think there would be money in buying in young 4/6 mth weaned calves but you may need to be able to hold on to them till the spring to see decent money back .
Selling them at 12mths takes you into Nov/ Dec when mist have got their sheds full up and not really looking to buy .
 

Welshram

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Only, Only I like the way you say only :ROFLMAO:

So what would they be paying the government that the self employed person wouldn't?
The only was just to reflect the difference between what people say there on and what lay actually take home I’d love to have £650 a week as well but the majority of people don’t earn that your all picking out jobs that pay good money this is not the norm
I totally agree we should be getting more for what we produce but our industry has to many middle men taking the profits out of the job Even as a farmer myself I keep saying to the missis HOW MUCH when she comes home from food shopping it’s getting crazy
Yes food should be more of a priority to people but this world has been brought up on have it know and pay for it later to the modern world of social media image is everything and people live beyond there means and it only takes one thing for that lifestyle to fall apart with electricity/ gas/ fuel/ jumping up ware do you think this savings going to come from food it’s the only thing that doesn’t impact the lifestyle yes it’s wrong but it’s the world we know live in
 
The place id buy them from breeds pretty good calves, they leave calves on the cows, no jerseys either all Holstein crosses… just bouncing ideas around really…
If you were too start a cattle enterprise how would you do it? I’m not really in a position too have the outlay that calves to finished cattle takes what ever I did I’d need money back from it within 12 months really..
As @Hfd Cattle says

i would personally milk at moment cash straight away especially if the farm was half set up for it. Not been a better time to start in last 25 years imo.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
The place id buy them from breeds pretty good calves, they leave calves on the cows, no jerseys either all Holstein crosses… just bouncing ideas around really…
If you were too start a cattle enterprise how would you do it? I’m not really in a position too have the outlay that calves to finished cattle takes what ever I did I’d need money back from it within 12 months really..
Ahhh there's a difference between selling at 12 mths and selling within 12 mths . 🙂
 
Location
Cleveland
The place id buy them from breeds pretty good calves, they leave calves on the cows, no jerseys either all Holstein crosses… just bouncing ideas around really…
If you were too start a cattle enterprise how would you do it? I’m not really in a position too have the outlay that calves to finished cattle takes what ever I did I’d need money back from it within 12 months really..
That’s a hard question. Personally I like keeping suckler cows but they are a very expensive and slow way to get into cattle


calves are always too dear for their age and the length of time you will have them

There’s more money in muck than gold so I’d probably try and buy poorly looked after cattle and turn them around. You just need to be able to value them and sell at the right time.
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
I think there would be money in buying in young 4/6 mth weaned calves but you may need to be able to hold on to them till the spring to see decent money back .
Selling them at 12mths takes you into Nov/ Dec when mist have got their sheds full up and not really looking to buy .
So buying in weaned calves around august September, too then move them on again in April when people start buying grazing cattle?

i would personally milk at moment cash straight away especially if the farm was half set up for it. Not been a better time to start in last 25 years imo.
More chance of the queen giving birth too a healthy set of twins next week than me milking cows 😂
 

Hilly

Member
The place id buy them from breeds pretty good calves, they leave calves on the cows, no jerseys either all Holstein crosses… just bouncing ideas around really…
If you were too start a cattle enterprise how would you do it? I’m not really in a position too have the outlay that calves to finished cattle takes what ever I did I’d need money back from it within 12 months really..
Ive seen hereford stirks in carlisle lean dirty badly done to things , often think if took em
Home de horned them worm em
Etc and be very good to them they might turn a proffit but i cant try it closed herd i cant risk it . Some here will know better than me .
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Ive seen hereford stirks in carlisle lean dirty badly done to things , often think if took em
Home de horned them worm em
Etc and be very good to them they might turn a proffit but i cant try it closed herd i cant risk it . Some here will know better than me .
Iv not had anything much to do with cattle other than tb testing for 7-8 years so I’m very out of touch with values of things so it’s just hard too know how too approach this kind of thing
 
Not as such, I’m trying to do it without spending 50k+ that I won’t see again for 2 years and have too find myself walking around money from somewhere for the meantime until I start too sell
I understand it’s all the money tied up in these cattle that make it hard for everyone really
The only things I know of where you can actually farm cattle without the capital outlay are the Woodheads finishing scheme, a calf rearing scheme of a company I can’t remember field fresh or something that sounds like that and the breedr thing where they stump up the money while you have them ‘stores’ but you have to weigh them and so forth
The rest of it needs cash
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
I understand it’s all the money tied up in these cattle that make it hard for everyone really
The only things I know of where you can actually farm cattle without the capital outlay are the Woodheads finishing scheme, a calf rearing scheme of a company I can’t remember field fresh or something that sounds like that and the breedr thing where they stump up the money while you have them ‘stores’ but you have to weigh them and so forth
The rest of it needs cash
Thankyou I’ll have a google might be a way too just get cash flowing for a couple of years too then start buying my own 👍👍
 

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