Young farmer killed in bale-wrapping machine

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Sorry my ignorance,
I’ve never used gas. and i’m unaware that regulators were date stamped, and beyond their use date,
Live and learn.
If we're lucky we live and learn from our mistakes and all we can do with others like the younger less experienced is tell /show them the risks, at the time /in the heat of the moment ..... try to give them the benefit of /pass on those experiences . mind you they have to start somewhere. leaving them working on their own is the worst bit but has to happen eventually.
When i was younger every thing had to be done as fast as possible (in my mind at least) and with out enough rational thought at times i can look back and see that , nowadays i wont touch closely a baler or combine for example if its running ,wind it down and switch the engine off and if anyone tells me that takes too long /waste time or i'm too slow it gets ignored.

In a 'situation' stand back and look and think before you act , it will give you chance to stop and stop again as one old farmer told me once.

Surviving gets more done in the long run.
 
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I was let loose on our steepest fields rowing up bales when i was 8, best way to learn, dangerous though
I was topping our steepest fields last week, 38 degree slope, four wheel drive diff locks on both axles and spinning to a stop on the uphill, windscreen washer syphoning out of the wiper in the downhill,seatbelt on to stay in the seat with a foot against the windscreen. I do what I have to but it's not the place to let your kids learn with their life in front of them
 

quattro

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scotland
I personally think younger people learn better than older
every situation is different my kids was round the farm from a young age and was always told to walk tight to the wall until the person on a machine saw them and acknowledged them
nearly everyone has done something and thought afterwards that was a silly thing to do and learns from it ITS CALLED LEARNING
most people who’s never had something that’s learnt them something has probably never done anything
no different from passing your driving test ,you’ve passed but your still learning along time after
allways believed you learn something ever day if your prepared to
 

Sebastian77

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Nottingham
I was topping our steepest fields last week, 38 degree slope, four wheel drive diff locks on both axles and spinning to a stop on the uphill, windscreen washer syphoning out of the wiper in the downhill,seatbelt on to stay in the seat with a foot against the windscreen. I do what I have to but it's not the place to let your kids learn with their life in front of them

rubbish to that, get a few sheep 😂
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I was cursing my son today for dragging straw whilst we were unloading corn on the go whilst combining. He’s 22 and was telling me it was the first time he’s ever done it. Me i was doing it as an 8 year old. I’ve been around machinery all my life and a lot of it frightens me which i think is no bad thing. I remember helping my uncle tipping corn as a five year old and him explaining to me how dangerous augers are it’s something I’ve carried with me since then. Risk is part of life and farming carries more risk than a lot of professions.
 

choochter

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aberdeenshire
I was topping our steepest fields last week, 38 degree slope, four wheel drive diff locks on both axles and spinning to a stop on the uphill, windscreen washer syphoning out of the wiper in the downhill,seatbelt on to stay in the seat with a foot against the windscreen. I do what I have to but it's not the place to let your kids learn with their life in front of them
If I was your mum, I'd ban you from doing that
 

shumungus

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Livestock Farmer
I was cursing my son today for dragging straw whilst we were unloading corn on the go whilst combining. He’s 22 and was telling me it was the first time he’s ever done it. Me i was doing it as an 8 year old. I’ve been around machinery all my life and a lot of it frightens me which i think is no bad thing. I remember helping my uncle tipping corn as a five year old and him explaining to me how dangerous augers are it’s something I’ve carried with me since then. Risk is part of life and farming carries more risk than a lot of professions.
It was good that he took the time to explain it in a way that you listened. This chap wasn't as lucky, a long video but all the details are in the first 5 minutes from 1:40 on basically, Everyone should watch the first bit of it and then ask yourself what if was your child ? It happened so simply.
 

Lowland1

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It was good that he took the time to explain it in a way that you listened. This chap wasn't as lucky, a long video but all the details are in the first 5 minutes from 1:40 on basically, Everyone should watch the first bit of it and then ask yourself what if was your child ? It happened so simply.
We all know the horror stories it’s what we learn from. When I went to America my bosses brother jumped into my pickup lifting his leg up with his arm. I asked if he’d hurt himself to which he pulled up his trouser leg showing me his artificial leg. He’d lost it in the auger of a New Holland 1500 combine pushing soya beans out of the tank. I took over a bean harvester from another driver who’d caught his hand clearing a blockage the blood on the windscreen and controls was a good warning not to do the same. Our neighbours at home wouldn’t let their kids into the farmyard because it was dangerous neither of their kids want anything to do with farming. Mine have been with me our my wife from day one and they want to farm. Pitching up on a farm aged 16 or 18 will be much more dangerous than spending your childhood around machinery and animals.
 

shumungus

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I take it everyone on here is aware that farming is an occupation and not a vocation ? So one minute the usual suspects are on here saying how the farming job is fecked that there is no future in it the way its going and you would be better off out earning a wage the next minute they are saying how children should be indoctrinated / brainwashed from an early age as that is the only way to restrict their education and social circle enough to leave it that farming is a viable option? In what other occupation in this country are children expected to start serving their time whilst still at primary school? As far as starting at 16 or 18 I know plenty of very good and capable machine operators / mechanics / trades people / surgeons / accountants etc who didn't embark on their career path until they were 16 or 18. Yes there. Yes there is a place for children on farms as long as we don't try to replace paid members of staff with child labour. Sure have them with you and take the time to explain what we do and how it works but don't endanger them needlessly to bolster your own pride or make up for the fact that you cannot afford to pay staff.
If it is in them to farm they will, if they don't want to they are better out of it.
 
I take it everyone on here is aware that farming is an occupation and not a vocation ? So one minute the usual suspects are on here saying how the farming job is fecked that there is no future in it the way its going and you would be better off out earning a wage the next minute they are saying how children should be indoctrinated / brainwashed from an early age as that is the only way to restrict their education and social circle enough to leave it that farming is a viable option? In what other occupation in this country are children expected to start serving their time whilst still at primary school? As far as starting at 16 or 18 I know plenty of very good and capable machine operators / mechanics / trades people / surgeons / accountants etc who didn't embark on their career path until they were 16 or 18. Yes there. Yes there is a place for children on farms as long as we don't try to replace paid members of staff with child labour. Sure have them with you and take the time to explain what we do and how it works but don't endanger them needlessly to bolster your own pride or make up for the fact that you cannot afford to pay staff.
If it is in them to farm they will, if they don't want to they are better out of it.
If i hadnt bn working after school and weekends/holidays as a kid we wouldnt have been able to afford the farm next door, family labour gives u an edge over competing farms and you end up far more skilled/capable as a result, you need to be as safe as you can though lot can go wrong
 

Lowland1

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I take it everyone on here is aware that farming is an occupation and not a vocation ? So one minute the usual suspects are on here saying how the farming job is fecked that there is no future in it the way its going and you would be better off out earning a wage the next minute they are saying how children should be indoctrinated / brainwashed from an early age as that is the only way to restrict their education and social circle enough to leave it that farming is a viable option? In what other occupation in this country are children expected to start serving their time whilst still at primary school? As far as starting at 16 or 18 I know plenty of very good and capable machine operators / mechanics / trades people / surgeons / accountants etc who didn't embark on their career path until they were 16 or 18. Yes there. Yes there is a place for children on farms as long as we don't try to replace paid members of staff with child labour. Sure have them with you and take the time to explain what we do and how it works but don't endanger them needlessly to bolster your own pride or make up for the fact that you cannot afford to pay staff.
If it is in them to farm they will, if they don't want to they are better out of it.
My wife’s father was a surgeon and she started helping him in her early teens obviously not with the NHS but in some other occupations children will follow their parents. I’ve never said farming is f…ed because I don’t believe it times change and we have to change with it. I make no apologies for wanting my children to follow me into farming but they have a choice and both of them have degrees in non agricultural subjects. But I personally feel it is a vocation but one you have to make money out of as a baby i was given to my Dad on the tractor to put me to sleep at a bit older Iwas bottle feeding lambs, helping muck out pigs and from age of seven helping on tractors. I have had a brilliant life in farming and those early times set it up. I wouldn’t want to do anything else. My kids have a choice too but the fact they’ve been with us from day one means they have a head start and when they do join us full time they won’t be asking what does that do or why are you doing that?
 

shumungus

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My wife’s father was a surgeon and she started helping him in her early teens obviously not with the NHS but in some other occupations children will follow their parents. I’ve never said farming is f…ed because I don’t believe it times change and we have to change with it. I make no apologies for wanting my children to follow me into farming but they have a choice and both of them have degrees in non agricultural subjects. But I personally feel it is a vocation but one you have to make money out of as a baby i was given to my Dad on the tractor to put me to sleep at a bit older Iwas bottle feeding lambs, helping muck out pigs and from age of seven helping on tractors. I have had a brilliant life in farming and those early times set it up. I wouldn’t want to do anything else. My kids have a choice too but the fact they’ve been with us from day one means they have a head start and when they do join us full time they won’t be asking what does that do or why are you doing that?
My previous post was not aimed solely at you it was a comment in general it just happened to be the one after yours. I agree totally with you in saying that to have the experience gives them a head start but by your own admission you have pushed for your children to be educated as they have degrees and the fact that they have gotten this far is testament to you not endangering them. There is a balance to be struck, feeding lambs working with young stock and 'helping' is a lot less dangerous than say the 12 year old, 13 year old and 14 year old I know of who are currently working on a big muckshifting job on a farm 6 days a week 7am till 11pm.
 

Exfarmer

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The danger of a hydraulic pipe burst is closely related to the distance to the victim and the part of the body. Except for the eye, unless the pressure is exceptionally high 2-3 inches and all you will get is a nasty drench.
However a closer encounter can be exceptionally nasty, resulting in amputation . There is obviously a high risk from such bursts when high pressure pipes are routed close to operators
 

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