Fertilising grass at Ā£800 a tonnešŸ˜³

Grassman

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Derbyshire
Was there anything different from normal in the grass seed mix? If your sheep loved it, it sounds like the horse owners rejected it rather than the horses.
I assumed that. But no. There was something about it that horses just didn't like.
I had one good customer who was baffled and forced the horses to eat it. But after two days she had to give up as they would rather starvešŸ˜€
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Get some Chicory and Clover into your leys, be it Red or White or a mixture of both , the ME and Protien of Chicory are a fair bit higher than Ryegrass and help to reduce and bloat risk from the clover
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
You have obviously been listening to George Eustice.

I can certainly see where I missed some areas so must be doing something
If you keep missing the same bit, you will find it stays greener than where you fertilise. Try a small area and see how you go. You should see a difference in one season.


It sounds counter intuitive, but the biology in the soil will synthesise n as part of the natural process. This process is interrupted when you give the n straight to the plant. The plant then stops feeding the microbes which supply n in return for sugars from photosynthesis. That is why you get yellowing when the fertiliser runs out.

It's not what the fertiliser people want you to know.
 
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Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
Is what the horse prefers the best thing for them though? I've read that the coarser hay is better for the horse, but the horse and its owner will always choose the softer or finer hay. Suppose convincing the owner then becomes the issue...
Or are they choosing what they're used to? Or contains the most tasty herbs? I have been wondering about that myself. But then I have no ryegrass to make a comparison!
 

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
What about the concept of fewer sheep, less work and more profit?

yep.....got 40% my arable i css now....25% arable as arable......35% remaining for nags/sheep......question over some pp i rent :unsure:

gotta house to renovate

not familiar with profit/sheep in same sentance concept though:unsure:

not buying bagged fert is just a question of bravery really.....always have bought.....scared at idea of not
 
Of course, with the value of grains and other feedstuffs, and the price of rent or value of land, it could be argued that fertiliser is still pretty cheap compared to the alternatives. Those of you with other enterprises or diversified income streams may well choose to reduce stock numbers or farm more extensively, each decision will be as unique as the next man. I personally would take great delight in telling retailers where to go for a season so as to learn them that they need you a lot more than they realise.

I do wonder if people who are still obtaining big grass yields this year with minimal fertiliser aren't mining their ground though. The nutrients must be there and coming from somewhere and I know of land where there has been plenty of take take take and no return and it won't grow a stitch now.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
yep.....got 40% my arable i css now....25% arable as arable......35% remaining for nags/sheep......question over some pp i rent :unsure:

gotta house to renovate

not familiar with profit/sheep in same sentance concept though:unsure:

not buying bagged fert is just a question of bravery really.....always have bought.....scared at idea of not
Don't know about that. I have to take a deep breath before actually ordering mine.

Haven't put any on grass for years. I think my accounts are better for that
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Of course, with the value of grains and other feedstuffs, and the price of rent or value of land, it could be argued that fertiliser is still pretty cheap compared to the alternatives. Those of you with other enterprises or diversified income streams may well choose to reduce stock numbers or farm more extensively, each decision will be as unique as the next man. I personally would take great delight in telling retailers where to go for a season so as to learn them that they need you a lot more than they realise.

I do wonder if people who are still obtaining big grass yields this year with minimal fertiliser aren't mining their ground though. The nutrients must be there and coming from somewhere and I know of land where there has been plenty of take take take and no return and it won't grow a stitch now.
I have land here and land for baling customers that hasnt seen fert for years, still grows grass.
Strange stuff grass/pasture, it used to grow in the wild you know, fed huge herds that would take days to count aparantly
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
If you keep missing the same bit, you will find it stays greener than where you fertilise. Try a small area and see how you go. You should see a difference in one season.


It sounds counter intuitive, but the biology in the soil will synthesise n as part of the natural process. This process is interrupted when you give the n straight to the plant. The plant then stops feeding the microbes which supply n in return for sugars from photosynthesis. That is why you get yellowing when the fertiliser runs out.
If I knew how to keep missing the same bit then I wouldn't miss bits. No GPS just every 4th fence post to aim for.
We have 80 acres of PP which is 50 year old. No fertiliser and eventually get cattle there by May.
What about the concept of fewer sheep, less work and more profit?
The first 2 sound fine. 3rd depends on everyone else and won't happen anytime soon
 

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