Footvax

DartmoorEwe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yelverton, UK
Sorry your flock have reacted - puts you off doing it, its hard to tell whether the fleece will grow back.

I used it through my flock (50ish) several years ago. There was a lot of limping and the vet suspected CODD as well as foot rot. Good cure to most and I culled any that did not respond. There were a few lumps but nothing consequential.

Sounds like you're having quite a time of it at the moment. Did your vet give any advice regarding the goats?
 

RMSLLOYD

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thanks Neilo and AI R.
Some more pics attached. Yes, did them in May, found the abscesses at shearing.I'm wondering if it's something to do with the breed????? Nar, Can't be.
View attachment 1051971View attachment 1051972View attachment 1051973The stuff vet and me took out wasn't your usual toothpaste/putty/yellow gunk but almost like jelly, semi solid.
Sorry about pics!
Thanks guys.
Used footvax for years and never seen a reaction that bad. Just a thought but i take it you jabbed under the skin and not direct into the muscle? ( not being a clever dick just wondering why you'd have such a bad reaction)
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
I wouldn’t imagine they are volume sellers for the manufacturer.🤐

I can’t abide the things myself and have a few unused refill packs that came with guns. Sounds like I’ll have to auction them off soon.😂
I'm the same. No matter how careful I am I seem to bend more needles using them and its not always easy getting the bent needle off to change it.

Will need to have a rake about and see how many unused packs I can find 🤣
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
If you run a closed flock in a field system (rather than open hills etc) it is possible to remove the footrot bacteria from your fields. I treated individuals in the flock in one field, then moved fields never returning to that field within four weeks. I believe the bacteria are only viable in the pasture for about 3 weeks.
Took one season of religious hard work catching individual sheep and treating but it worked....golden hoof and a cut off Welly. No antibiotic use no vaccine.
Sorry but in my experience your wrong… Iv got paddocks Iv rested for 8-9 months and put sheep on them and instantly I start having lame sheep.. since footvax’ing and selective culling Iv dropped my lameness from 20% too 2-3% in 18 months
 

Robin2020

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Livestock Farmer
I had lots of lumps when I started using it on my sheep. I was crap with the gun and jabbing them in the muscle around the neck. This was not helped by working on my own. I actually started a thread on how do people manage to jag under the skin with these guns whilst on their own.... Not easy as the animal moves its head around. Now I inject behind the front shoulder where I can get a better roll of skin and there is less movement. No lumps this year.
I don't have enough experience to say how well it works. But I cant remember when one was last treated for lameness.
 

RMSLLOYD

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I had lots of lumps when I started using it on my sheep. I was crap with the gun and jabbing them in the muscle around the neck. This was not helped by working on my own. I actually started a thread on how do people manage to jag under the skin with these guns whilst on their own.... Not easy as the animal moves its head around. Now I inject behind the front shoulder where I can get a better roll of skin and there is less movement. No lumps this year.
I don't have enough experience to say how well it works. But I cant remember when one was last treated for lameness.
Couldn't agree more. Its a pain in the arse to do them in the neck. Same as cydectin in the base of the ear. I asked my vet why it needs to be site specific and she said its needs injecting there as its close to the lymph gland. But i think that 100% hit rate on the shoulder will be more successful than hit and miss on the neck and lot less bad reactions?
 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
Sorry but in my experience your wrong… Iv got paddocks Iv rested for 8-9 months and put sheep on them and instantly I start having lame sheep.. since footvax’ing and selective culling Iv dropped my lameness from 20% too 2-3% in 18 months
Proof is in the pudding....no footrot, codd or scald here....now in year four. Never culled a sheep for footrot, still got ewes that had footrot 4 years ago. How am I wrong....you can keep culling expensive sheep and buying expensive vaccine if you like, I prefer a bit of work and zinc sulfate
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Proof is in the pudding....no footrot, codd or scald here....now in year four. Never culled a sheep for footrot, still got ewes that had footrot 4 years ago. How am I wrong....you can keep culling expensive sheep and buying expensive vaccine if you like, I prefer a bit of work and zinc sulfate
Well I used too foot bath everything once/ maybe twice a week and had 20% lameness in my flock now Iv got 2-3% and don’t spend a fortune on footbath solution and zactran now so I guess proof is in the pudding here also 😂
 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
Well I used too foot bath everything once/ maybe twice a week and had 20% lameness in my flock now Iv got 2-3% and don’t spend a fortune on footbath solution and zactran now so I guess proof is in the pudding here also 😂
I've never used a footbath and don't trim feet. Have the very occasional limp sheep, generally a thorn or chipped hoof or clump of mud between their claws. Always grip sheep as soon as it starts limping but have had no sign of footrot. Your system works so does mine.
Closed flock, no other sheep for miles, strict quarantine for any bought in rams/pet lambs.
 
Thank you all so much.
It's really great to hear all your different experiances and how you deal with this problem.
I do the Angora goats with Golden Hoof and it hardens their hooves brilliantly.
but I have kept the animals off the crofts for 3 weeks, maybe that's not enough. I'll try putting them though the Golden Hoof then moving them for a month off that ground.
One of the vets said it can become endemic in the ground, first i heard of it......true?
Anyway, what about my Angora goats which had no lumps, no footrot untill they had a Footvax???????
 

LAMBCHOPS

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Footvax everything left on farm in September, jabbed near 2,000 last September over a few days and none were like that. Probably get 1/25 with a lump half the size of a golf ball come shearing in June. Some ewes have several lumps so they must be bad reactors.
We’ve Been using it since 2003-4?
Have you got a reasonably priced supplier for that number???
 

muleman

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By its savage stuff.. .did a batch of 300 ewe lambs yesterday morning and by evening nearly everyone was dragging a frontleg very lame.....then by tonight most of them back to normal again.
 

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