Cost of living...

robs1

Member
Like what?
Sitting around drinking tea instead of working being the main one, have you not seen network rail guys or water companies, they turn up around 9 sit in the van for a while get out do an hours work then tea break then a bit of work lunch around 12.30 bir of work then go home at three. Farming in a built up area we see it all the time, however the national grid line through us is being repainted, the guts doing that are hard workers work till late and at weekends, up and down the pylons like monkeys, I suspect they are on a time schedule.
 

capfits

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Sitting around drinking tea instead of working being the main one, have you not seen network rail guys or water companies, they turn up around 9 sit in the van for a while get out do an hours work then tea break then a bit of work lunch around 12.30 bir of work then go home at three. Farming in a built up area we see it all the time, however the national grid line through us is being repainted, the guts doing that are hard workers work till late and at weekends, up and down the pylons like monkeys, I suspect they are on a time schedule.
This happens in the privatised companies?
Contractors or employees of the privatised companies?
 

robs1

Member
This happens in the privatised companies?
Contractors or employees of the privatised companies?
Yes because the working practices from the old days are still there, had a friend get a contract with council to supply jcb for road jobs, he said it drove him up the wall for first couple of months sitting about while they drank tea, he was told by them not to rock the boat as they liked taking it easy, he said any new guy starting thought the same as he did but after a while get into that way of working.and so it contiues
 
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kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Sitting around drinking tea instead of working being the main one, have you not seen network rail guys or water companies, they turn up around 9 sit in the van for a while get out do an hours work then tea break then a bit of work lunch around 12.30 bir of work then go home at three. Farming in a built up area we see it all the time, however the national grid line through us is being repainted, the guts doing that are hard workers work till late and at weekends, up and down the pylons like monkeys, I suspect they are on a time schedule.
We "see" things all the time but unless we are actually doing them ourselves we don't know why people are doing what they do. It could just be that they're lazy, there could other reasons for it.
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Utter bollox. Total utter bollox. There are great examples of public owned companies around the world. There are also disasters of course. Just like the private sector.
Governments can’t and don’t want to run businesses. They are too idle to take care of their own affairs, cannot manage civil servants and are hopeless administrators. For that very reason they have sought to introduce yet another layer of bureaucracy called the EU to help manage their affairs.
It happens in industry, the bosses build empires to reduce their workload and provide scapegoats to facilitate buck passing.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
What a perfect incubation ground for the rising support for Mick Lynch. Good man Mick, your country needs you.

Your Micky went a bit off track (pun intended) this afternoon. Should stick to train and railway matters, but lo he now having gained fame wants to tell us his views on matter foreign. And my he has some Soviet views. Not a chum of your EU sticking their nose where doesn't belong. Oh dear.
 

Vader

Member
Mixed Farmer
So much of ordinary UK citizens money ends up in tax havens instead of going through the system to be used for the UK population. Fat cats creaming it helps no-one.
Yeah while they try and crack down on cash deals, such as trade lot do, but ends up spent in uk anyway.
Couple 100 quid to a sparky to do a job, cash ends up in local pub. Everyone gains.
Corporate tax avoidance, everyone looses..
 

essex man

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Location
colchester
Utter bollox. Total utter bollox. There are great examples of public owned companies around the world. There are also disasters of course. Just like the private sector.
Well you must be able to come up with an example then!
tbf i was talking about the UK but the principle is the same all over.
people need to innovate in order to increase efficiency and allocate resources effectively. The private sector incentivises this far better than the public sector.
If the government is better at running things, surely it should own and run everything a la clause 4?
 

DB67

Member
Location
Scotland
Yes the older folk will need heating and some will find it difficult but I'm sure energy firms will allow some discretionary discounts, the bad publicity will be very bad if they dont help oaps.
We survived the 1970's when people spent far higher percentage of income on food and heating than now
Aye and you could buy a house or two for not very much, which now is worth about ten times that and live happily ever after. The baby boomer generation are completely out of touch. Houses cost a bloody fortune in comparison to wages these days, cars, petrol etc. and the housing market being so dear is mainly driven by your age group making a mint and buying second homes. So spare me the sky sub bs.
 

stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Aye and you could buy a house or two for not very much, which now is worth about ten times that and live happily ever after. The baby boomer generation are completely out of touch. Houses cost a bloody fortune in comparison to wages these days, cars, petrol etc. and the housing market being so dear is mainly driven by your age group making a mint and buying second homes. So spare me the sky sub bs.
Yes houses were cheaper, wages were less and interest rates were higher, much higher.
With the current low cost of borrowing houses are relatively easy to buy, many find it difficult to get on the housing ladder because their expectations are too high, wanting to buy a house similar to the one the baby boomers are currently living in, conveniently ignoring the fact that most baby boomers started out in a sh!t box and traded up over the years.
 

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