Who has replaced Guy Smith at Red Tractor?

OK. Surely he needs that for feed grains as much as he does for milling ?


Not necessarily. You can still find the odd home for non assured feed grains but its dwindling and its discounted below market price.

We feel the AIC exhorts its members to only purchase RT assured but I don't feel there is a justifcation for this, especially as anything imported merely needs "gatekeeper" which itself is pretty nebulous. And again there is no cost for the AIC to do this, and there is no cost to the mills to do this. But there is a huge cost to the farmer both in unfairly discounted products and the cost of "complying" with something they almost certainly adhere to a anyway because of their legal obligations.

The lack of representation on this has led to a lot of anger with the NFU for never ever acknowledging this. Its why a lot of farmers don't trust them anymore. Sad but true but they had been informed.
 
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Clive

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I have. And I look forward to engaging with all sides of the industry to make changes for the better. I totally understand the frustrations of inspection, auditing, import equivalence and gatekeeper protocol - I want to listen to your frustrations and try to make things better. Constructive critisism always welcome - just give me a chance - I'm listening.


good luck

Above all else , please never forget who you represent on this board

engagement here on TFF is a good idea, however I warn it won’t be easy but you have to listen to farmers or you will fail miserably

lets see sone radical thinking and changes now please - what we have is very broken for cereals and needs ground up reform

if you ever think i can help in anyway just pick up a phone, believe it or not i’m not opposition for anyone who genuinely wants better for farmers
 

Humble Village Farmer

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Not necessarily. You can still find the odd home for non assured feed grains but its dwindling. We feel the AIC exhorts its members to only purchase RT assured but I don't feel there is a justifcation for this, especially as anything imported merely needs "gatekeeper" which itself is pretty nebulous
Plus it's perfectly alright to feed Ukrainian wheat to red tractor animals.
 

AlfM

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Norfolk
Kits a top guy, good appointment.
good luck

Above all else , please never forget who you represent on this board

engagement here on TFF is a good idea, however I warn it won’t be easy but you have to listen to farmers or you will fail miserably

lets see sone radical thinking and changes now please - what we have is very broken for cereals and needs ground up reform

if you ever think i can help in anyway just pick up a phone, believe it or not i’m not opposition for anyone who genuinely wants better for farmers
He’s already made it clear on Twitter he’s not solely representing farmers
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
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Just seen he was nfu sugar board.
So nfu putting their man in place on their baby, the RT.
Just shuffling the seats on the gravy train.

this was always going to be the case

really this appointment should have be without any NFU (past or current) connection but that was never going to happen was it

We will see how independent Kit is soon enough, i will judge on results

No mans integrity or reputation is worth just £10,000 pa - so lets hope he values himself higher
 
Responding to consultations, engaging with policy makers.
Plenty that sit back and let NFU, NSA ,TFA speak up for them. No problem with that, it's the ones that bitch and moan when the out come isn't to their liking, but couldn't be bothered to engage in the decision making process, usually on here!
What about ones that supported NFU for years and always tried to engage but got blanked because NFU big knobs didn't like what they heard?!
 
good luck

Above all else , please never forget who you represent on this board

engagement here on TFF is a good idea, however I warn it won’t be easy but you have to listen to farmers or you will fail miserably

lets see sone radical thinking and changes now please - what we have is very broken for cereals and needs ground up reform

if you ever think i can help in anyway just pick up a phone, believe it or not i’m not opposition for anyone who genuinely wants better for farmers
Thank you. I am genuninely here to listen and engage - Rome wasn't built in a day and I don't start until next month but lots of constructive help and comments so far and will definitely pick up the phone.
 

robbie

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Just seen he was nfu sugar board.
So nfu putting their man in place on their baby, the RT.
Just shuffling the seats on the gravy train.
You beat me to it, he was already in the NFU inner circle so fits the bill and is a "safe" appointment from there point of view.

It's great he's already in here as says he's hear to listen but already being "one of them" I expect nothing but the same from him and RT,NFU ect.😟
 
You beat me to it, he was already in the NFU inner circle so fits the bill and is a "safe" appointment from there point of view.

It's great he's already in here as says he's hear to listen but already being "one of them" I expect nothing but the same from him and RT,NFU ect.😟
I'm not sure representing growers on NFU Sugar counts as part of any "inner circles", one of them or a safe appointment but happy listen and to try to help.
 

robbie

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I'm not sure representing growers on NFU Sugar counts as part of any "inner circles", one of them or a safe appointment but happy listen and to try to help.
But it does, your already a NFU man. You know what's allowed and what can and can't be done to stay within the NFU and part of the gravy train.

What would happen if you was really hell bend on change and marched into your appointment next month and announced exactly what most on here think, the NFU,AIC and RT are all to cosy, RT is a farce that only works for the consumer(mills) not the farmer and the whole lot needs tearing down and starting again with a simple equal to imports standard.

You'd be out the door before you could even get your bic out of your top pocket.
If you weren't one of them, a safe appointment or part of the inner circle you wouldn't have got a look in!!!! Fact!!!!
 
But it does, your already a NFU man. You know what's allowed and what can and can't be done to stay within the NFU.

What would happen if you was really he'll bend on change and marched into your appointment next month and announced exactly what most on here think, the NFU,AIC and RT are all to cosy, RT is a farce that only works for the consumer(mills) and not the farmer and the whole lot needs tearing down and starting again with a simple equal to imports.

You'd be out the door before you could even get your bic out of your top pocket.
If you weren't one of them, a safe appointment or part of the inner circle you wouldn't have got a look in!!!! Fact!!!!
NFU Sugar Board is an elected board of Sugar Beet growers; I don't even have to be a member of the NFU to be elected.
You are welcome to your opinion but I am an independant farmer and grower with some experience of assurance schemes and working on boards.
I hope that all forum members with views will engage and discuss - I will try to.
 

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