£14,000 Collie

[unlacedgecko]

Emma Gray’s bitch achieved £14,000 at Skipton today. What a great result!

 

[primmiemoo]

They're beyond price, though, when it matters.

 

[unlacedgecko]

They're beyond price, though, when it matters.

I had a conversation on Facebook recently. Based on a 10 year working life, that’s £1400 a year deprecation.

 

[Skintagain]

I love training a dog but i couldn’t ever bear to sell one.

 

[M-J-G]

Good for Emma, she's a nice lass and hasn't had an easy road to get to where she is.

Saw she'd lost her old dog Roy recently.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

I saw one get to 7500 guineas today, but trainer wouldn't sell it and thought it was worth more

I couldn't decide if trade was up or down, quite a few dogs went back through the ring for a second time, is that normal?

 

[Dry Rot]

I had a conversation on Facebook recently. Based on a 10 year working life, that’s £1400 a year deprecation.

And what was the value of the time and experience to train and breed her? If you costed that out, most working dogs would be valued too cheap for what they are.

 

[unlacedgecko]

And what was the value of the time and experience to train and breed her? If you costed that out, most working dogs would be valued too cheap for what they are.

You’ve misunderstood me. I’d say the depreciation quoted is fairly cheap compared to the effect the dog will have when working stock. It will do more than a worker on minimum wage at 10% the cost.

 

[Spartacus]

I saw one get to 7500 guineas today, but trainer wouldn't sell it and thought it was worth more

I couldn't decide if trade was up or down, quite a few dogs went back through the ring for a second time, is that normal?

At skipton they let the first 3 (i think) go back through halfway if not sold in the first instance, if sold then they dont get a second chance. I hear the 7500 one had been offered for sale at 8k at home recently so my guess is the auctioneer was running it up close to that to try get a bid in at the last minute.

The 14k dog has been bought for export to the US for trials and for its bloodlines as well. Well done Emma on getting such a good price, wish I could get one to half that!

 

[Greythundercloudys]

I know a few dog men and alot of those big money dogs never to anything with the new owner, alot of farmers now a dayz can't work a good dog, they go looking for a lambing dog, spend a couple of grand on one, take it home and expect to go out a work for them the next day, No chance, then it's tied up for a month, then it's sold again . Collins are getn like the blackie tups, a farce.

 

[shearerlad]

I know a few dog men and alot of those big money dogs never to anything with the new owner, alot of farmers now a dayz can't work a good dog, they go looking for a lambing dog, spend a couple of grand on one, take it home and expect to go out a work for them the next day, No chance, then it's tied up for a month, then it's sold again . Collins are getn like the blackie tups, a farce.

I agree to an extent but a good dog is worth its weight in gold.

I bought a wee 18 month old bitch through Facebook two years ago. The first few months a wondered what the fudge I had bought but with time and effort she has turned into a very useful worker

 

[unlacedgecko]

I agree to an extent but a good dog is worth its weight in gold.

I bought a wee 18 month old bitch through Facebook two years ago. The first few months a wondered what the fudge I had bought but with time and effort she has turned into a very useful worker

Dogs take time to adapt to their new owners/surroundings. I bought a bitch 3 1/2 years ago. For the first 3 weeks I couldn’t get near her, thought I’d bought a dog to shoot it!

She’s now my main bitch and due to pup first week of March.

 

[Longlowdog]

I was offered very daft money for a working cocker from great bloodlines by an American who saw her working on a grouse moor. My wife would have killed me if I agreed to sell and the thought of her prowess being demonstrated a time or two at trials then spending her life churning out pups clinched my decision not to sell. In hindsight that dog gave me more pleasure than 14k in the bank.
Would I have paid that for her in hindsight? Undoubtedly. Though no small part of the joy of having a great dog is in the bringing out of what is bred in (for me anyway).

 

[CopperBeech]

Better cook a good fry up, make a killer cup of tea and pull a lot of women for 14,000.

 

[Dry Rot]

You’ve misunderstood me. I’d say the depreciation quoted is fairly cheap compared to the effect the dog will have when working stock. It will do more than a worker on minimum wage at 10% the cost.

No, I understand completely and think we agree!

 

[Dry Rot]

A good dog, for breeding, is worth exactly what you have to pay for it.

I saw what trial judges wanted (gun dogs) and trained a dog specifically for that. The dog would either win or be thrown out. It won three trials on the trot and was sold to a Japanese industrialist for today's equivalent of around £30,000. He would not have made a great shooting dog.

I had another dog that was an alrounder, probably the best dog I've ever owned. Due to other commitments, I couldn't take him around the trial circuit and I think he ended up winning a minor stake. He was infinitely more valuable, in my estimation, to the champion, but you can't tell judges that! I kept him until he died of old age.

Sadly, as has been said, the great dogs are getting rare and those who can train and work them, even rarer. Dog training here in the UK is becoming a lost art.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

At skipton they let the first 3 (i think) go back through halfway if not sold in the first instance, if sold then they dont get a second chance. I hear the 7500 one had been offered for sale at 8k at home recently so my guess is the auctioneer was running it up close to that to try get a bid in at the last minute.

The 14k dog has been bought for export to the US for trials and for its bloodlines as well. Well done Emma on getting such a good price, wish I could get one to half that!

Thanks for the insight
Most interesting, as I was a bystander for a day out

Food was good

Weather was glorious

 

[neilo]

I agree to an extent but a good dog is worth its weight in gold.

I bought a wee 18 month old bitch through Facebook two years ago. The first few months a wondered what the fudge I had bought but with time and effort she has turned into a very useful worker

+1 My smallest dog, which I had on a month's trial at 18 months old, wouldn't do a thing with sheep for 30 days. Then the penny dropped and she was off. She now pops into the pen on command and drives sheep up the CombiClamp race for me, living to work sheep and for me. The breeder was hesitant about letting me have her on trial as someone had previously had her on the same basis and brought her back after 2 days because she wouldn't work. Muppets.

 

[Wilddog]

Find it funny nobody has mentioned “luck money”. Like they do when a bull or tup gets sold for big money.

 

[kelpiekid]

Find it funny nobody has mentioned “luck money”. Like they do when a bull or tup gets sold for big money.[/QUOTE
You buy a working dog, you buy it and look after it properly you will not need luck money. It will give you all the luck and pleasure every day you take it out to work.