£400 for spare wheel!!

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startinghandle

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Earlier I was talking to someone who enquired about a new Astra at the local main dealer. The sales guy showed him 3 which they had registered in their own name to
Meet end of year sales targets and they were on sale for what the company paid for them or so he said.
When asked about spare wheel the sales guy said the spare wheel was replaced by a tube of sealer and compressor
and if he wanted a spare wheel
It would involve fixing brackets in boot to accommodate space
saver wheel at a cost of £400
as the original accommodation for wheel now locates battery
I would say there must be a big
Voltage drop from battery to
Starter assuming the absolute minimum size cable is used
Also the sales guy said he could change car after 3 or 4
Years with still out standing finance just keep on paying
I was baffled by that
 
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kill

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startinghandle said:
Earlier I was talking to someone who enquired about a new Astra at the local main dealer. The sales guy showed him 3 which they had registered in their own name to
Meet end of year sales targets and they were on sale for what the company paid for them or so he said.
When asked about spare wheel the sales guy said the spare wheel was replaced by a tube of sealer and compressor
and if he wanted a spare wheel
It would involve fixing brackets in boot to accommodate space
saver wheel at a cost of £400
as the original accommodation for wheel now locates battery
I would say there must be a big
Voltage drop from battery to
Starter assuming the absolute minimum size cable is used
Also the sales guy said he could change car after 3 or 4
Years with still out standing finance just keep on paying
I was baffled by that
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Surely he's trying to get the purchaser to just roll that finance on into another car at a later date from same dealership as a fish that's hooked struggles to swim away.

Personally I'd go scrap yard and just buy a steel wheel for 30 quid
 
Cowabunga

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
I don't see anything unusual in any of that. Spare wheel is not compulsory and very many cars today, even 'luxury' ones, are sold with either bottle of gunge and compressor or a temporary spare that may not even be inflated.
Lots of cars with battery in the boot as standard as well and has been for years. My Volvo [current model] has a temp spare [deflated] and the main battery in the boot's left wing along with many fuses.

As for finance, the fashionable thing is to use personal contract purchase PCP which is in effect a rental with a great big balloon at the end which has to be paid or re-financed if the car is to be bought outright at the end of the PCP. Most people just change the car for a new one on another PCP and give the old one back without paying the balloon off. This works great the first time, when there is a fully owned part exchange to provide a big lump sum up front, but at the end of the PCP there is likely to be very little, if any, owner equity to put down on the next PCP.
I was talking about this to my neighbour the other day actually and he was telling me about the young women coming in at the end of a £400 a month PCP on RR Evoques and similar who were quoted for changing to buy their old ones out for nearly £30k, which they couldn't afford, and for a new PCP with either £15k down plus £500/month or nearer £900/month with no deposit. They were in tears sometimes because they couldn't afford either option and couldn't be seen to be downgrading from the Evoque to something more affordable like a Nissan Juke or an used Ford Focus.
 
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Hilly

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Second spare wheel story today , friend of mine wife got puncture last night no spare just bottle of ... tyre ripped so no good right carry on getting things sorted he was quite vext no spare wheel.
 
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br jones

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Cowabunga said:
I don't see anything unusual in any of that. Spare wheel is not compulsory and very many cars today, even 'luxury' ones, are sold with either bottle of gunge and compressor or a temporary spare that may not even be inflated.
Lots of cars with battery in the boot as standard as well and has been for years. My Volvo [current model] has a temp spare [deflated] and the main battery in the boot's left wing along with many fuses.

As for finance, the fashionable thing is to use personal contract purchase PCP which is in effect a rental with a great big balloon at the end which has to be paid or re-financed if the car is to be bought outright at the end of the PCP. Most people just change the car for a new one on another PCP and give the old one back without paying the balloon off. This works great the first time, when there is a fully owned part exchange to provide a big lump sum up front, but at the end of the PCP there is likely to be very little, if any, owner equity to put down on the next PCP.
I was talking about this to my neighbour the other day actually and he was telling me about the young women coming in at the end of a £400 a month PCP on RR Evoques and similar who were quoted for changing to buy their old ones out for nearly £30k, which they couldn't afford, and for a new PCP with either £15k down plus £500/month or nearer £900/month with no deposit. They were in tears sometimes because they couldn't afford either option and couldn't be seen to be downgrading from the Evoque to something more affordable like a Nissan Juke or an used Ford Focus.
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Awful lot of debt out there ,of which a huge amount cannot be paid off ,a lpt of bankruptcies are very much due
 
Cowabunga

Cowabunga

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br jones said:
Awful lot of debt out there ,of which a huge amount cannot be paid off ,a lpt of bankruptcies are very much due
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There is no risk to the customer from those PCP's, if only because the customer never owns the car. There is the potential for shock when the lease ends and they get a PCP price for the next car, as I illustrated. The risk is carried 100% by the finance company which could be [they are] getting a whole lot of cars coming off finance at the end of term that are sent to auction and raise less than is owed to the finance company. The finance company could go bust as a worse case scenario.
 
balerman

balerman

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Location
N Devon
Cowabunga said:
As for finance, the fashionable thing is to use personal contract purchase PCP which is in effect a rental with a great big balloon at the end which has to be paid or re-financed if the car is to be bought outright at the end of the PCP. Most people just change the car for a new one on another PCP and give the old one back without paying the balloon off. This works great the first time, when there is a fully owned part exchange to provide a big lump sum up front, but at the end of the PCP there is likely to be very little, if any, owner equity to put down on the next PCP.
I was talking about this to my neighbour the other day actually and he was telling me about the young women coming in at the end of a £400 a month PCP on RR Evoques and similar who were quoted for changing to buy their old ones out for nearly £30k, which they couldn't afford, and for a new PCP with either £15k down plus £500/month or nearer £900/month with no deposit. They were in tears sometimes because they couldn't afford either option and couldn't be seen to be downgrading from the Evoque to something more affordable like a Nissan Juke or an used Ford Focus.
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In many ways this sums up the way people live today,no thought for the future,living beyond their means to look good.Thankfully farming people in the main don't work like this or UK Ag plc would be bankrupt long ago...
 
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