‘I could have been killed’ - walker attacked

[MickMoor]

Does anybody else think that so long as farmers take money offered by 'government' they lay themselves open to all sorts of stupid claims by the public. Keep farming private, and your problems will gradually disappear!

 

[grumpy]

Does anybody else think that so long as farmers take money offered by 'government' they lay themselves open to all sorts of stupid claims by the public. Keep farming private, and your problems will gradually disappear!

nah its no win no fee lawyers that has fecked this country.

 

[MickMoor]

I suppose when you took the king's (or prince's) shilling you didn't realise he expected you to die for him!
Government created a climate in which no win no fee lawyers can thrive, and so long as you take the money, you can expect Joe public to think he has rights beyond his station.
You are another member of Gordon Brown's client state.

 

[Welsh Farmer]

....we moved the trail to the side of the field and fenced it off with a single plain wire and a top barb and that was an end to the problems.

This organisation meant that any path that ran across a paddock was moved to the edge, given 9' of width and fenced with barbed wire on one side and plain on the other.

My understanding is that NO barbed wire is legally allowed along a public footpath fence ... it's certainly not here that's for sure We have to use rylock topped with one or two strands of plain wire or natural hedge or post and rails; Electric fence or barb is a definite no-no.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

My understanding is that NO barbed wire is legally allowed along a public footpath fence ... it's certainly not here that's for sure We have to use rylock topped with one or two strands of plain wire or natural hedge or post and rails; Electric fence or barb is a definite no-no.

Plain wire on the people side and barbed on the animals side. Each strand of wire is opposite the other and forms a very good barrier. This works well and as you can imagine with a 4'' gap formed by the posts, even with the odd broken post. These can be easily replaced by removing the staples and putting in another. Never any complaints as the paths were kept in good order and the animals were kept separated from the walkers.
SS

 

[llamedos]

My understanding is that NO barbed wire is legally allowed along a public footpath fence ... it's certainly not here that's for sure We have to use rylock topped with one or two strands of plain wire or natural hedge or post and rails; Electric fence or barb is a definite no-no.

Not sure about Wales/Scotland but the only no-no is to Not have Barbed wire across a PFP ie causing obstruction, but common sense is required, some paths are very narrow, some the width of a single track lane, common sense is to not have barbed adjoining a stile etc, our council even offered to provide electric fence gateway handles etc for a run of electric fencing. Declined because they would be forever replacing them when they got nicked

Personally hate barbed wire, work of the devil. But it does give those with the dogs who like to jump fences a reason to keep them on a lead

 

[Henarar]

I suppose when you took the king's (or prince's) shilling you didn't realise he expected you to die for him!
Government created a climate in which no win no fee lawyers can thrive, and so long as you take the money, you can expect Joe public to think he has rights beyond his station.
You are another member of Gordon Brown's client state.

Can't see the connection between SFP payments and folk on footpaths that haven't got a clue
plenty of folk live on gov handouts from the day they are born don't mean to say that i think i can go a walk through there home or garden
To hear some talk you would think that farmers were the only folk that get subsidy
So you think anyone claiming child subsidy is giving the rest of the population the right to do what they like on there land

 

[JP1]

to be honest and shoot me down in flames i have never seen a black fella picking cabbages in the the rain?but was there no the black fermer or summit?

they only picked sugar cane in the sun

I really detest comments like these.

1. It's got nothing to do with walkers
2. It's overtly racist
3. It's actually not factual

You folks should get over yourselves, you're probably much more likely to see a first, second, third generation UK citizen from any ethnic minority working than some of "our own" on benefits

 

[grumpy]

I really detest comments like these.

1. It's got nothing to do with walkers
2. It's overtly racist
3. It's actually not factual

You folks should get over yourselves, you're probably much more likely to see a first, second, third generation UK citizen from any ethnic minority working than some of "our own" on benefits

the only folks who pick cabbages in this country are east Europeans and thats a plain fact,i detest political correctness it is just an excuse to bury your head in the sand and ignore the facts like most crime in this country is committed by pikeys or black youths every one knows this but your not supposed to say it.the only folks you can slag off is white van man and the torys

 

[JP1]

the only folks who pick cabbages in this country are east Europeans and thats a plain fact,i detest political correctness it is just an excuse to bury your head in the sand and ignore the facts like most crime in this country is committed by pikeys or black youths every one knows this but your not supposed to say it.the only folks you can slag off is white van man and the torys

That's not the point. Given that those "black youths" haven't had the same education or employment chances, I think it's something that should be celebrated that so many fit your stereotype as bus drivers in London. The more sensible approach would be to celebrate just how many are employed, have good education and are using it. The fact that you don't see many in Fife is no reason to castigate "them" as a generality and yes it is very insulting. You need to get out more, the UK's moved on and many cities are a vibrant place with many folks of different backgrounds, it's just not reached Fife yet

As to ANY criminals, they should be investigated without any fear of PC correctness; taxi booking Leftie councils in the Rotherham scandal, travellers' sites etc etc. Sadly the pea picking communities of Essex and Kent in the travelling community have long gone but nobody deserves to be tarred with the same brush

 

[grumpy]

That's not the point. Given that those "black youths" haven't had the same education or employment chances, I think it's something that should be celebrated that so many fit your stereotype as bus drivers in London. The more sensible approach would be to celebrate just how many are employed, have good education and are using it. The fact that you don't see many in Fife is no reason to castigate "them" as a generality and yes it is very insulting. You need to get out more, the UK's moved on and many cities are a vibrant place with many folks of different backgrounds, it's just not reached Fife yet

As to ANY criminals, they should be investigated without any fear of PC correctness; taxi booking Leftie councils in the Rotherham scandal, travellers' sites etc etc. Sadly the pea picking communities of Essex and Kent in the travelling community have long gone but nobody deserves to be tarred with the same brush

ive travelled the length of the country and never seen one in a field nowt racist about it at all merely an observation,even the cops arent allowed to stop and search black youths for fear of being branded racist.how can you tackle a problem you choose to ignore?the minute you dare to tackle folks just pull the racist card on you.then of course the rise of ukip has nowt to with the EU but that large areas of UK citys are becoming no go areas for white folks and thats another fact.but by all means just shout racist and sweep under the carpet.i predict Enoch Powell will be proved correct and at some point there will be a civil war in the UK

 

[llamedos]

Back on topic please gents

@grumpy quite correct in the quoted post about 'The Black Farmer' and he does very well indeed trading off his name http://www.theblackfarmer.com/about

& in fairness the 2 quoted posts read in context to the thread, made a reasonable point, as I understood it, we are expecting folk who are more used to walking the pavements of towns and cities to know how to behave, they have been told to go to the countryside and enjoy it.
Once again a lack of education.

 

[Welsh Farmer]

Personally hate barbed wire, work of the devil.

My thoughts exactly; OH loves it though and is like a demon possessed with using it. When he erected the new post and rail fence around the garden of the new farmhouse (our children were aged 6 and a newborn baby at the time) he did a lovely job, just right for children to play safely within ... and then he went and fixed a strand of barbed wire to the top rail We argued for a good two years over the stupidity and non-safety of it before I finally took up arms (or rather staple extractor and hammer) and removed all 500' of it myself much to his disgust.

 

[The Agrarian]

Does anyone have a bull, or heifer for that matter, that would stay in a field on their own? Mine certainly wouldn't take long to find a way out and look for another batch of cattle to be with.

 

[Pasty]

Back on topic, it's a tricky one. Some time last summer I was chatting to my old man in one of our fields as his 14 year old lab staggered off into the distance. Across the river came our tenant's first calvers with their babe at foot to be confronted by a dog. By this time we are 50 yards away and it all goes into slow motion. Dog is on the deck being trampled and I am on the way, luckily with my piece of ash in hand. All the time I am running to save the old dog I am aware that I am running into the middle of a field with some pretty cross and pretty powerful beasts. I face them down, just and I think it was just.

It is a tricky thing. When a strapping farmer's lad with a sturdy stick and years of experience with cattle knows it's marginal, what chance does your average lecturer have?

 

[czechmate]

Back on topic, it's a tricky one. Some time last summer I was chatting to my old man in one of our fields as his 14 year old lab staggered off into the distance. Across the river came our tenant's first calvers with their babe at foot to be confronted by a dog. By this time we are 50 yards away and it all goes into slow motion. Dog is on the deck being trampled and I am on the way, luckily with my piece of ash in hand. All the time I am running to save the old dog I am aware that I am running into the middle of a field with some pretty cross and pretty powerful beasts. I face them down, just and I think it was just.

It is a tricky thing. When a strapping farmer's lad with a sturdy stick and years of experience with cattle knows it's marginal, what chance does your average lecturer have?

Did the dog survive?

 

[Cowabunga]

Did the stick survive?

 

[Henarar]

Did the stick survive?

Good point, when I have had to use it the bloody thing breaks in half first swing

 

[roscoe erf]

Good point, when I have had to use it the bloody thing breaks in half first swing

can't beat alkathene

 

[Henarar]

can't beat alkathene

I have never used it, I hardly ever carry a stick even when putting the cattle through the crush