‘I could have been killed’ - walker attacked

Location
Gwynedd
apologies for the old thread resurrection, but say you catch someone with their dog off the lead running around the field away from the footpath regardless of stock or not (so not under control) what what steps can we take for the persistent offenders?.....as I understand video it with the phone, have a word with them and explain that its not a national park then contact the dog warden.....then what?....what can he do?...is there a civil charge for a dog out of control?....all very well telling them to stop but following it right through how do you actually stop it.

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stroller

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
apologies for the old thread resurrection, but say you catch someone with their dog off the lead running around the field away from the footpath regardless of stock or not (so not under control) what what steps can we take for the persistent offenders?.....as I understand video it with the phone, have a word with them and explain that its not a national park then contact the dog warden.....then what?....what can he do?...is there a civil charge for a dog out of control?....all very well telling them to stop but following it right through how do you actually stop it.
Find out where they live then go and trample around their garden, they tend not to like that, even the offer of walking in their garden puts them off!
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Over the past year I have had three or four cows diagnosed with neospora, which is a kiss of death to them and any offspring which they happen to carry to full term. I have a lot of dog walkers down my road, which the cows use to get to fields and therefore take a crafty bite at the grass, plus a public footpath through three or four fields.

Dog walkers are becoming a plague. A dangerous one for my cows and a costly one for me.

There is absolutely nothing I can do about it, which is frustrating. I have great fears that more cows will get neospora and either abort or transmit it to heifer calves.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
We gave up a field of keep in the village that had three footpaths across it, It became more and more like dog sh!t avenue
have seen folk stop by the stile and let there dogs go in for a crap then go on down the road
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I have a 30 acre field with 4 footpaths & permissive access for the village to walk freely across it. It's the best fertilised field on the farm thanks to the dogs & some post mortems on dead calves have shown neospora yet mortality is no worse than average despite the cattle living in that field for most of the year.
 

Fens

New Member
I often walk a public footpath along down by a river, which runs thru a grass field which is grazed every year by cows. One day the cows where all over the path and nearby chewing away, heads down. Now given I walk this route at least once a week I know the herd is pretty relaxed in the field, however I still walk around them giving a good amount of space and have the river to my side. So I've an exit. I did this really without thinking too much, you just don't walk thru them or try to scare them off the path in my eyes. As I walked 1/2 a minute down the path, I pass a chap around 30 years old and I watch him walk straight thru the herd and even right behind one cow, within a 1 foot of it's back legs. The cow had it's head down and could so easily of just kicked out at the sound of someone creeping behind it. What was my conclusion, there is a massive lack of common sense in people today and some laws are made for stupid people.
Soon the farmer will have to provide suggested guidelines of how to act when in the field with cows, with do's and don'ts. 1) don't try and ride the cows......
 
Location
East Mids
I often walk a public footpath along down by a river, which runs thru a grass field which is grazed every year by cows. One day the cows where all over the path and nearby chewing away, heads down. Now given I walk this route at least once a week I know the herd is pretty relaxed in the field, however I still walk around them giving a good amount of space and have the river to my side. So I've an exit. I did this really without thinking too much, you just don't walk thru them or try to scare them off the path in my eyes. As I walked 1/2 a minute down the path, I pass a chap around 30 years old and I watch him walk straight thru the herd and even right behind one cow, within a 1 foot of it's back legs. The cow had it's head down and could so easily of just kicked out at the sound of someone creeping behind it. What was my conclusion, there is a massive lack of common sense in people today and some laws are made for stupid people.
Soon the farmer will have to provide suggested guidelines of how to act when in the field with cows, with do's and don'ts. 1) don't try and ride the cows......
Yes but when I raised a similar comment with a walker a few years ago he said another farmer had caught him 10 yards off the path on grass for exactly that reason - to avoid the cows - and the farmer told him off for straying off the path. Our industry is very good at shooting itself in the foot sometimes.
 

llamedos

New Member
Yes but when I raised a similar comment with a walker a few years ago he said another farmer had caught him 10 yards off the path on grass for exactly that reason - to avoid the cows - and the farmer told him off for straying off the path. Our industry is very good at shooting itself in the foot sometimes.

Devilled if you do, devilled if you dont today, it applies to both farmer & public, fact is, a lot of rural areas have just become so busy, public are encourage to go to the countryside, but receive next to no education on how to behave, farmer is expected to host them, yet with little or no authority to ask them to behave sensibly. No wonder tempers become frayed and accidents happen.
 

Richard Devon

Member
Mixed Farmer
We gave up a field of keep in the village that had three footpaths across it, It became more and more like dog sh!t avenue
have seen folk stop by the stile and let there dogs go in for a crap then go on down the road


yes, thats pretty much what a minority are doing around here, somewhere they can turn the dogs loose while they are on their smart-phones......or their other favourite 'quiff' is to throw the poly bag of dog mess in the field.....or leave it on gates or fences as if to say "can you dispose of this for me".

If I could catch the culprits I think probably the best thing to do is put a photo on our local community facebook page - kind of a name and shame thing because I don't think anything else will work effectively
 

dudders

Member
Location
East Sussex
I just lost a hen to a walker's dog on the footpath that runs through the farm. Her first excuse was she thought it was a pheasant, so that was OK then. 2nd excuse was it was a public footpath, so that was OK then. 3rd excuse was that I should have had notices warning about free-range hens, so it was all my fault really. She'd only climbed over a stile onto my land which has a notice on it saying FREE RANGE POULTRY - PLEASE KEEP YOUR DOG UNDER CONTROL. She didn't say she could have been killed, although she could have been - I did feel like it.
 

Richard Devon

Member
Mixed Farmer
Dudders, had something similar here on 3 occassions with ducks and chickens...but ones that were ultimately destined for the table so they weren,t at all nimble. They let the off the leads in our lane and the dogs take off after anything......

On a positive note i was up feeding the sheep first thing this morning in a field with the footpath running right across it. A lady with her dog on the lead stopped me and asked if it was ok to carry on along the path, she even was carry the mess in a bag. Genuine friendly and polite which kind of undoes all the bad done by the minority.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
was spraying some grass for a customer today, one field which is only four and a bit acres has a path through it, just as i finished i looked round and saw a woman with a dog walk about ten yards behind me with a dog, you have to wonder what these people have for brains, had I made a sharp turn I would have swiped her with the boom:scratchhead:
 

Pint

Member
Location
East Sussex
was spraying some grass for a customer today, one field which is only four and a bit acres has a path through it, just as i finished i looked round and saw a woman with a dog walk about ten yards behind me with a dog, you have to wonder what these people have for brains, had I made a sharp turn I would have swiped her with the boom:scratchhead:
You would have done the world a favour if you had swiped her(y)
But I'm not supposed to say that am i:rolleyes:
 

Seed&Grain

Member
A lot of common sense has been lost by some (non) country folk.
Would you walk amongs a large group of cows and calves with a dog on lead?
I totally agree, but repeatedly in the media, yesterday for example on the radio 5 evening show on a piece about dogs attacking livestock, the message is always keep your dog on a lead in a field with livestock!!
 

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