‘My barley can pay the wages for 84 nurses’
- Thread starter llamedos
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England pay scales: bands 1-7
Band 1 Band 2 Band 3 Band 4 Band 5 Band 6 Band 7
15,100 15,100 16,633 19,027 21,692 26,041 31,072
15,363 15,363 17,179 19,461 22,236 27,090 32,086
15,786 17,800 20,147 23,132 28,180 33,227
16,210 17,972 20,844 24,063 29,043 34,876
16,633 18,468 21,477 25,047 30,057 35,891
17,179 19,027 21,692 26,041 31,072 37,032
17,800 19,461 22,236 27,090 32,086 38,300
28,180 33,227 39,632
34,876 *40,694
England pay scales: bands 8-9
Band 8 Band 9
Range A Range B Range C Range D
39,632 *46,164 *55,548 *65,922 *77,850
*40,964 *47,559 *57,069 *67,805 *81,618
*42,612 *49,968 *59,016 *70,631 *85,535
*44,261 *52,757 *61,779 *74,084 *89,640
*46,164 *55,548 *65,922 *77,850 *93,944
*47,559 *57,069 *67,805 *81,618 *98,453*
Lifted from the nurses website
I had not realised nurses pay had risen so far
Band 1 Band 2 Band 3 Band 4 Band 5 Band 6 Band 7
15,100 15,100 16,633 19,027 21,692 26,041 31,072
15,363 15,363 17,179 19,461 22,236 27,090 32,086
15,786 17,800 20,147 23,132 28,180 33,227
16,210 17,972 20,844 24,063 29,043 34,876
16,633 18,468 21,477 25,047 30,057 35,891
17,179 19,027 21,692 26,041 31,072 37,032
17,800 19,461 22,236 27,090 32,086 38,300
28,180 33,227 39,632
34,876 *40,694
England pay scales: bands 8-9
Band 8 Band 9
Range A Range B Range C Range D
39,632 *46,164 *55,548 *65,922 *77,850
*40,964 *47,559 *57,069 *67,805 *81,618
*42,612 *49,968 *59,016 *70,631 *85,535
*44,261 *52,757 *61,779 *74,084 *89,640
*46,164 *55,548 *65,922 *77,850 *93,944
*47,559 *57,069 *67,805 *81,618 *98,453*
Lifted from the nurses website
I had not realised nurses pay had risen so far
kernowcluck
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- Cornwall
Don't forget the majority of nurses are band 5 on an average of £25,000 pa. Bands 1 and 2 are cleaners, housekeepers,porters etc, band 2 and 3 are healthcare support workers, band 4 Assistant Practitioners, pharmacy assistants etc, band 5 most ward nurses, band 6 senior staff nurses, band 7 ward managers and specialist nurses. Most of the further bandings are higher management and senior clinical staff. I work with some excellent nurses who are earning far less than £25,000.
Living soil
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I'm all for subsidising food security or even better ... Soil health. But alcohol ? Sorry that's not where I want my money spent. How much does alcoholism cost in both monetary and social terms ? I imagine it takes a lot more nurses to look after alcohol related illness than the whiskey calcs ?!
He's also assuming that you dump your barley at the gate and whiskey comes out, bottled, inspected, matured, tasted and labeled from the gate at the other end.
Farmers should be trying to show the bigger picture but when it doesn't add up, it makes us all look a bit silly.
Farmers should be trying to show the bigger picture but when it doesn't add up, it makes us all look a bit silly.
spin cycle
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that is a very good point...isn't 1 in 4 A&E admissions alcohol related?...having said that i grow malting barley and also maize for AD.....which is morally more worthwhile?....what should i be growing instead?
It used to be about import subtituition .. we can only import food if we export something that other people want.
Sort of ask a double glazing salesman or a social worker what they have to offer a NZ farmer in exchange for food.
At this point in history, Social Stabilty is our main export currency, i think
Sort of ask a double glazing salesman or a social worker what they have to offer a NZ farmer in exchange for food.
At this point in history, Social Stabilty is our main export currency, i think
4course
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- north yorks
I reckon its a pretty good way of getting through to the general public who basically have no real understanding of agriculture or public finances and whilst we could pick holes in the figures in broad terms is how things work and ive often used the line that there is only a few pence worth the farmers wheat/ barley in bread/beer and the bps etc helps keep the price lower and guarantees supply for the consumer this is a similar way ,its all about education
Grain Buyer
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I keep hearing the subsidy = cheap food argument. Can anyone explain this calculation to me? I'd say wheat is cheap at the moment at £100 , everyone is getting a sub, so why complain? When wheat was £200 per tonne everyone still got the sub and the price didn't drop. I've been in this game 20 years and I've always heard it said, but I have never understood why.
For the sake of an argument, if there were no subs then no one with any sense would continue growing wheat @£100/t, so lack of supply should lead to the price stabilising nearer£200/t.
Likewise if they decoupled subsidies from production the same would occur... Oh well you know if farmers were sensible...
Likewise if they decoupled subsidies from production the same would occur... Oh well you know if farmers were sensible...
Living soil
New Member
Hi...Would your AD cope with large bales from fertility building leys ? Is your maize met aldehyde dressed ? Whats the rest of your cropping ? If subsidies were redirected to soil health and stayed with the land (eg change of tenants) would that appeal ? (big question I know
Living soil
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Living soil
New Member
Subsidies support inefficient production (piling on artificial inputs to in many cases degraded soils) .. Soil is the basis of food security. Grain is a commodity and we compete on a an open market ... This drives rotations not husbandry
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- Shropshire
Don't ask me chap, I am still trying to work out how nitrogen can inflate in price by over 300% in the last 15 years.
But I suppose it's easier to bash farmers and subsidies than the supply industry.
Grain Buyer
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nope, just as easy, and again, how the heck has that happened? Even more baffling if the volatility in price of potash, which is dug out of the same hole with the same machinery year in year out!
spin cycle
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- north norfolk
Hi...Would your AD cope with large bales from fertility building leys ? Is your maize met aldehyde dressed ? Whats the rest of your cropping ? If subsidies were redirected to soil health and stayed with the land (eg change of tenants) would that appeal ? (big question I know
to answer your question
1/ i wish...lovely clean aftermaths to fatten lambs or flush ewes.....but no
2/ i don't know...we're not a 'sluggy' farm so it'd be a waste...i'll check
3/ spring barley....some low input hls....then winter barley follwed by stubble turnips or unsprayed.unbroken winter stubble for birdies
....then back into maize4/ i'm not addicted to food production ...i'll follow the money..if thats in 'soil health' thats ok by me
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Poor bloke's just trying to get a positive message out about the value of farming and over half of you are slagging him off for it.
Not really helping is it.
Not really helping is it.
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- Ceredigion
llamedos
New Member
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Things must have been bad!, all they could afford was -:
The following were bought (*= foreign
made): 1 Hagedorn self
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loading trailer*, 1 MF 30 drill, 2 10 ton Brimont
trailers*, 1 eight furrough Lemken shallow plough*, 1 Dowdeswell five
furrough reversible plough, 3 Ford 6600s, 1 Ford 7600, 1 Deutz 8006*,1
Deu
tz 1006 4wd*, 1 Berthoud 3000 litre 24 metre sprayer, 1 Claas Rollant big
baler*, 1 Claas Jaguar 60SF forage harvester*, 1 Gillibert forage box*,
1MIL
fodder box