‘Superfeed’ lupin will provide soya-grade protein from UK farms

[Clive]

Sorry, i meant for the feed compounder, why are lupins better where there is already a source of homegrown protein

something to do with licene i think and amino acids ?

 

[Clive]

...but later to harvest

yes - not too much though - I also think they would sit out until christmas if they needed to with less loss than beans as the pod are not brittle

 

[moo]

Can they be feed to pigs?
That's the problem with beans you cannot put much in the ration

 

[Alistair McLaren]

...but later to harvest

Lupin pods don't split open which is a big advantage over Beans

 

[Gilchro]

Personally, I don't rate beans as a cattle feed, they never feed that well. Tannins pull them down.

More importantly, if you're on native cattle, beans have too much starch to feed at any great inclusion level. Especially if you already have cereals in the mix.

Lupins on the other hand have better amini acid profile, higher protein and lower starch levels. Makes for a much better feed.

I only wish they'd survive to harvest up here. Haven't seen combining lupins any further north than Kelso.

 

[Rob Holmes]

What a lupins like to dry? Do they need running through the dryer several times like beans sometimes do?

 

[Captain Mainwaring]

What a lupins like to dry? Do they need running through the dryer several times like beans sometimes do?

It might depend on your drier but I found them easy enough through a continuous flow.

 

[Bury the Trash]

could there be a picture of some growing currently pls or on another thread maybe?

 

[Alistair McLaren]

could there be a picture of some growing currently pls or on another thread maybe?

These are on a neighbouring farm to work in NSW, Australia. Sown April. Don't know anymore about them I'm afraid. They have had a few frosts on them so far with a light one again this morning.

 

[farming4profit]

We grew them last year and they were fine. but got caught by a wet fortnight in October and our rubbish drying system. Still, we got them dry and hammer milled them and fed them to the fattening cattle, which did very well on them with barley.

We got a good 1.5 tons per acre on very poor acid sand. They stood well and combined well pods well up from the ground. Better, easier and cleaner than beans. Just wish there was an established market for them and we could wave goodbye to soya.

Very big potential I'd say. Don't know what's holding people back, apart from maybe late harvest up north, but down South should be a doddle.

Not grown them this year as still have enough left to feed through the winter.

I don't think they like their feet in chalk, but don't quote me on this.

There is a move afoot to raise the profile of Lupins and a meeting to start the ball rolling takes place shortly. Based on the report that started this thread it was determined that a feed compounder would need circa 2000 tonnes access to do a full run using lupin protein alone. There is a crop of lupins in the ground now which has been co-ordinated by me and a poultry farmer, his feed nutritionist and supplying feed company to monitor through the chain . Further to that and the work Soya UK have been carrying out for the last 15 odd years we will be looking for growers to work with us to build the supply - all on buy back contracts, to raise the profile and generate the tonnage for the feed market requirement. Once the poultry / young stock / aquaculture farmers wake up to the benefits of the species demand should likewise follow. The one issue that can scupper such development of this type are the 'me to' merchants that jump on the bandwagon and try to take a slice of the action by bringing in totally unsuitable varieties from elsewhere which are not suitable to UK conditions. So if you are interested I would suggest you keep talking to me or Soya UK. Given time we will bring other merchants in to develop the whole in a managed, co-ordinated fashion.

 

[farming4profit]

Where could I find more information on growing lupins?

www.Farming4profit.co.uk (you will need to register - ACCS required) or www.soya-uk.com

 

[farming4profit]

could there be a picture of some growing currently pls or on another thread maybe?

Subject to where you are there could be a crop on your doorstep - my crop as detailed above is in Glocs but I know several others are in the 'south west'

 

[PSQ]

Can they be grown with another legume in the rotation? i.e. peas ideally need to be part of a minimum 6 year rotation, would lupins interfere?

Also, Sclerotinia is a common issue to both OSR and Peas, would growing Lupins compound the problem ?

 

[farming4profit]

@Premium Crops do too

http://www.premiumcrops.com/lupins.html

Why's that? Found them ok to deal with last year

They may have their own end use on the back of the linseed export to France, but knowing what I do, for Lupins I would go to Soya UK only. I would certainly work with Premium Crops on HEAR or linseed. Each company has their speciality, but 'me to' trading doesn't tend to work.

 

[farming4profit]

Can they be grown with another legume in the rotation? i.e. peas ideally need to be part of a minimum 6 year rotation, would lupins interfere?

Also, Sclerotinia is a common issue to both OSR and Peas, would growing Lupins compound the problem ?

http://www.soya-uk.com/SoyaUKseeds/lupinfaq.php

 

[PSQ]

I only wish they'd survive to harvest up here. Haven't seen combining lupins any further north than Kelso.

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yes - not too much though - I also think they would sit out until christmas if they needed to with less loss than beans as the pod are not brittle

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harvest date about 2 weeks later than beans

= December.

This is (I think!) lupin harvesting in Poland:

 

[Clive]

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= December.

at least we have a cab ! as I found out year ago cutting beans in late november on a JD CTS though not all combines have heaters !

 

[farming4profit]

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= December.

This is (I think!) lupin harvesting in Poland:

Where are you farming. Soya would be an alternative if south of the Humber / Crewe. Harvest mid/late September latest due to determinate growth habit.