‘Taking the knee’ .

I wonder if they will ban fans who boo from any given stadium... :unsure:
I think you are correct, my action will be to turn my back on them until the whistle blows. Silent action from both points of view so nobody should be upset by either action. Noticeable it is the London teams not just premier who have stopped because they know what's coming. Remember the lower league cup game abuse at taking the knee. Was a terrible shock to the wokies.
 
Taking a knee, aka black lives matter , antifa are nothing more than racism and racist organisation, need anymore need to be said.
 
Yes.
You're talking nonsense.

No, I disagree.,black lives matter is a blatantly racist organisation.
Injustices happen all the time to all people all over the world.
Do we have to make the English apologise repeatedly for generations for what they have done over the last 400 years around the world?
Rather than merely repeat what you English refer to as "bòllocks" look up Thomas Sowell and his opinions rather than BLM or antifa
 

Stuart J

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No, I disagree.,black lives matter is a blatantly racist organisation.
Injustices happen all the time to all people all over the world.
Do we have to make the English apologise repeatedly for generations for what they have done over the last 400 years around the world?
Rather than merely repeat what you English refer to as "bòllocks" look up Thomas Sowell and his opinions rather than BLM or antifa
A. I'm not English.
B. I didn't say 'rubbish' Why put that in quotation marks?
C. Yes, injustices happen all over the world, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise any in particular. If someone was shaking a charity tin for Breast Cancer Research, you wouldn't go up and shout in her face "Actually Carol, ALL CANCERS MATTER! Theres more cancers than just Breast Cancer!! "
Or would you..?
 
A. I'm not English.
B. I didn't say 'rubbish' Why put that in quotation marks?
C. Yes, injustices happen all over the world, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise any in particular. If someone was shaking a charity tin for Breast Cancer Research, you wouldn't go up and shout in her face "Actually Carol, ALL CANCERS MATTER! Theres more cancers than just Breast Cancer!! "
Or would you..?
Cancer isn't racist, do you think to follow the actions of a racist organisation like black lives matter is acceptable???
 

Stuart J

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I've watched 1.41 so far. What lot of cobblers.

In critisism of BLM:
'BLM is self serving...'
Well of course they are. They want equality for themselves.

On the subject of defund the police:
'talking about getting rid of the police'
That's not what defunding the police means. If he can't grasp that simple concept I'm not holding out much hope for the rest of the video.


Do you have any views of your own, or do you just parrot this video?
 

Howard150

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What a can of worms we have here. For what it’s worth my personal view is that it’s a racist organisation and taking the knee is a racist act. It saddens me that allegedly principled people such as Starmer pander to it.
It saddens me that people are being led by the nose with the media pushing it for all it’s worth. Anything else other than woke leftist gay would not see the light of day.
It started in a racist hotbed that we know nothing about. It comes off the back of a career criminal, poor little rich kid Hamilton jumping on the bandwagon. Time to open your eyes peeps. Where it started they don’t want equality - they want supremacy and the whole judicial system overturned. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
There is an old old Arab proverb in that if you really really want something then don’t wish too hard for it as you might actually get it.
If this lunacy is not stopped then where will it end. There are already plenty of fringe groups in relatively lawless areas just waiting to jump on the bandwagon.
 

Henarar

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I've watched 1.41 so far. What lot of cobblers.

In critisism of BLM:
'BLM is self serving...'
Well of course they are. They want equality for themselves.

On the subject of defund the police:
'talking about getting rid of the police'
That's not what defunding the police means. If he can't grasp that simple concept I'm not holding out much hope for the rest of the video.


Do you have any views of your own, or do you just parrot this video?
What would happen if a group called WLM was formed?
there was plenty of white slavery in history to protest about and it still happens apparently
can you see a group such as that being accepted ?
how about a WLM political party ?
 

Bald Rick

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What would happen if a group called WLM was formed?
there was plenty of white slavery in history to protest about and it still happens apparently
can you see a group such as that being accepted ?
how about a WLM political party ?
Actually slavery is very much alive.

Called farming .......... Damn thing needs representation without discrimination
 
Anyone else remember Catch-22 and the Great Loyalty Oath Crusade.? An officer decided to look better than the others by demanding all the men sign an oath of loyalty, then it became 2 oaths so you proved you were loyal, then it got out of hand and everything ground to a halt as the men could not even have their rations without signing an oath. In the end, a no-nonsense major turned up and effectively said "What the ____'s going on round here, give me my dinner now" and the whole movement collapsed in an instant. The current situation reminds me of this, which I believe was a parody of McCarthyism in the '50s.
 
No one dares to speak the bleedin' obvious anymore , at risk of being shot down.
I was reading on my news feed this morning about a painting of a Kangaroo, done by an Australian native "artist" 17.000 years ago. All the comments were the usual pc stuff about how wonderful it was, how it was just as relevant as a Rembrandt is to a European colonist, how it conveyed secret meanings with the angle of its legs, etc, etc. until finally someone said "Not much of an artist, was he? :) " Oh my goodness, talk about opening a can of worms....In the end, the last comment was removed as it was seen as too insensitive. And all the while, you can imagine the ghosts of generations of aborigines shouting "Don't patronize us, just treat us as equals if you don't like the painting."
But in fact if we consider everyone to be equal, we should judge all art on its merits and disliking a picture doesn't make you a racist.
I have noticed on documentaries about Hitler that they always rush over his painting hobby and "experts"describe him as a failed second rate artist. Having googled a few of his paintings, though, I think some are actually OK as paintings, and would look fine on the wall if they were painted by anyone but him. You can't openly say that in public, though, without attaching an apology or proviso to show that you are morally upright.
 

Stuart J

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What would happen if a group called WLM was formed?
there was plenty of white slavery in history to protest about and it still happens apparently
can you see a group such as that being accepted ?
how about a WLM political party ?
Interesting question and I'm not sure of the answer.
On the whole though, Whites are not discriminted against today to the extent that black people are. That's the problem.
 

Howard150

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Location
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Interesting question and I'm not sure of the answer.
On the whole though, Whites are not discriminted against today to the extent that black people are. That's the problem.
not the problem in its entirety. The problem is the human condition, whether it be black or white. We normally gravitate to friends and against anything different. That is so the whole world over. Bias like that can be directed at the English by the Scots and the Welsh. English against Islamic. The reverse is also true.
Where BLM originated equality is not on the agenda. Supremacy is along with overturning the rule of law and releasing all the criminals. It is wrong and it is totally racist. Let me tell you this. Two wrongs do not make a right. There should be a way forward in a middle ground. There is already discrimination against whites in broadcasting, fast approaching a balance in politics. BLM is surplus to requirements.
What about Islam? It is deeply entrenched in BLM. Allegedly we are unable to migrate to Islamic countries. How racist is that.
let me tell you a story. There was a boot shop in Bradford, on the corner of the A6177 and Leeds road. It was there for years. Even called it Mr Boot. It is a predominantly Asian area. Had a few pairs from him over the years. Went in one day and the place was totally up tipped. I asked what was happening. Obviously the Asian community had forced him out. He said with tears in his eyes - “the bas..rds have worked on me until they have got me out. Anybody who tells you about racism does not even begin to understand what racism is until these bas..rds start on you”
Keep an open mind.
I have a passion for Rugby League. I live in the heartland. When this lockdown is over I do not want to see that sullied by a racist act being forced on us at the beginning of each match.
 
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