10,000 cattle dead in Kansas

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Angus do well here even in our heat. We bought dairy cattle out of Gippsland years ago which has a climate more akin to yours. I remember one WHITE cow spent the entire first summer camped under a willow tree panting..... White cattle get photo sensitization and sunburnt more readily than black cattle. Same as people....
Bramhans do better in Northern Australia, but that might have more to do with living on bugger all feed and surviving on massive stations with minimal intervention rather than soley heat

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

I would imagine there are lots of different types of feedlots but forcing cattle to be out in 50C direct sun with no availability of shade has to be bordering on cruelty

They died at night apparently. How much more shade can you have than darkness? Put them in a shed like you lot have in a similar situation and the trapped heat would have made the situation worse.

 

[DrWazzock]

I was told to buy British Whites as being white they reflect the heat better. Well that was one thing in their favour. I never lost one with over heating anyway.

 

[JP1]

Feed lots ive seen had folk on horse back riding through every pen the whole time checking stock getting them on there feet make sure they ok and if not seperate and straight to the vet , all looked good to me . What id like to know is why fuss over scale , whats the difference between 100 or 500,000 ? What scale is acceptable to others ?? Bear in mind the most people want beef cheap as pos . We should remeber they are in it to make money and the only way to make money out of livestock is to keel them fit healthy and happy , if they are not they dont perform , they obviously do perform in these feed lots as they would go bust fairly quick if any inefficiencys at that scale .

Maybe we as well as the public are just not prepared for "scale"

The US antis post the photos of the miles of calf hutches in rows

Personally I'll admit I feel pretty intimidated / phased when I walk in to a massive broiler house or even free range egg building at roosting time

 

[Hilly]

Maybe we as well as the public are just not prepared for "scale"

The US antis post the photos of the miles of calf hutches in rows

Personally I'll admit I feel pretty intimidated / phased when I walk in to a massive broiler house or even free range egg building at roosting time

I think some see out off by scale alone i dont get that ? Feed tend for one animal feed tend for a million ? Same thing imo .

 

[Hilly]

I was told to buy British Whites as being white they reflect the heat better. Well that was one thing in their favour. I never lost one with over heating anyway.

White cattle can suffer heat more than blacks .

 

[Hilly]

in the interest of balance.....couldn't make out any sign of irrigators in previous clip though

Them cattle look great condition !

 

[DrWazzock]

I remember a trip to Riseholme Agricutural College while at school. They had hens in battery cages as a kind of demonstration unit. The muck came out on a conveyor, the eggs rolled out another chute, feed and water automatically fed in. Compared to mucking them out at home with a hand shovel and barrow and collecting eggs in a bucket while avoiding getting knocked down by the tup it really did look the business.

 

[Jerry]

Its damn hot here today and I am staying away from the stock, everything is lying in the shade of hedges/trees/building.

Peaked about an hour ago at nearly 37 degrees and barely any wind. Exceptionally hot day for June.

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[Hilly]

Its damn hot here today and I am staying away from the stock, everything is lying in the shade of hedges/trees/building.

Peaked about an hour ago at nearly 37 degrees and barely any wind. Exceptionally hot day for June.

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Coat on here on the dust bowl.

 

[Deerefarmer]

 

[spin cycle]

They died at night apparently. How much more shade can you have than darkness? Put them in a shed like you lot have in a similar situation and the trapped heat would have made the situation worse.

they'dve been cooler going into the night....i mean those sprinklers look expensive but some tall unclad portal frame buildings with white rooves surely wouldn't dent the boardroom bonus to much

 

[onthehoof]

They died at night apparently. How much more shade can you have than darkness? Put them in a shed like you lot have in a similar situation and the trapped heat would have made the situation worse.

Wasn't talking about this case specifically, the guy in the vid says not out of ordinary to lose 10k to a Kansas whether event, my point was more that cattle would choose shade if they could so forcing them to go without in 50C is not ideal and yes I understand practalities etc and certainly wasn't advocating putting them in a shed
Also it's still all speculation about what actually happened here

 

[som farmer]

I remember a trip to Riseholme Agricutural College while at school. They had hens in battery cages as a kind of demonstration unit. The muck came out on a conveyor, the eggs rolled out another chute, feed and water automatically fed in. Compared to mucking them out at home with a hand shovel and barrow and collecting eggs in a bucket while avoiding getting knocked down by the tup it really did look the business.

and battery hens were/are healthier, than free range. In any case, free range sheds, are designed to keep chicken close to, or in, the sheds.
Quite certain, if they knew what free range chickens eat, while pecking around, slugs, snails etc, not sure some would be quite so keen.

 

[Bruce Almighty]

I’m just waiting for a bod from Red Tractor to come along and say
“Of course this wouldn’t happen on a Red Tractor Farm”

and so the consumer will pay a premium for Red Tractor beef

(pigs might fly)

 

[Bury the Trash]

good stockmanship would give them Shade , a base requirement if its on or about the same Latitude as Madrid .
'course that would add to their costs

sheltered from the suns rays through the day would prevent heat stroke it /keep their overall temp down, in 'normal'types of heat anyway.

 

[neilo]

good stockmanship would give them Shade , a base requirement if its on or about the same Latitude as Madrid .
'course that would add to their costs

sheltered from the suns rays through the day would prevent heat stroke it /keep their overall temp down, in 'normal'types of heat anyway.

Spaying them with water regularly, as shown in the above video, would cool them much faster than shade.

 

[neilo]

I’m just waiting for a bod from Red Tractor to come along and say
“Of course this wouldn’t happen on a Red Tractor Farm”

and so the consumer will pay a premium for Red Tractor beef

(pigs might fly)

I doubt those units would fail a RT audit, any more than a slatted shed full of cattle would in the uk.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Spaying them with water regularly, as shown in the above video, would cool them much faster than shade.

Shade is required full stop, or else that water will just evaporate causing further waste sprinkler system could be fixed in under. its not rocket science ,

If its big moneyed clever clogs farm business should be able to get it right surely.

 

[neilo]

Shade is required full stop, or else that water will just evaporate causing further waste sprinkler system could be fixed in under. its not rocket science ,

If its big moneyed clever clogs farm business should be got right surely

The water evaporating off their backs is what cools them, that’s how evaporation works.