100,000 pigs to be destroyed

[Mc115reed]

I’m sorry but if you ask me it’s sad but true that the pig and chicken sectors have brought this on themselves… in a race too the bottom they’ve been buying up/ renting land all over the country the last few years banging up sheds recklessly left right and centre in a bid to expand into the cheapest fastest meat possible as big and fast as possible… it was always going too catch up with them eventually…

 

[Nukemall]

I’m sorry but if you ask me it’s sad but true that the pig and chicken sectors have brought this on themselves… in a race too the bottom they’ve been buying up/ renting land all over the country the last few years banging up sheds recklessly left right and centre in a bid to expand into the cheapest fastest meat possible as big and fast as possible… it was always going too catch up with them eventually…

Total uk pig breeding herd in1997 800,000
Total uk pig breeding herd 2020 400,000

 

[JP1]

Total uk pig breeding herd in1997 800,000
Total uk pig breeding herd 2020 400,000

And with many more of those sows outside in 2020

 

[Hilly]

Great idea until the boats stop coming

70 million held to ransom !

 

[Mc115reed]

Total uk pig breeding herd in1997 800,000
Total uk pig breeding herd 2020 400,000

And how many uk pig breeders then and now? … I bet them the average pig herd was 50 and now is 50,000

 

[Hilly]

Total uk pig breeding herd in1997 800,000
Total uk pig breeding herd 2020 400,000

But held in far far less hands , dominated by massive company’s , days of the family pig farm all but totally over. Sheep and beef next .

 

[spin cycle]

Total uk pig breeding herd in1997 800,000
Total uk pig breeding herd 2020 400,000

10000 pig farms....but 1000 of those farms have 360000 of those sows.......of that 10 corporate firms control 140000 sows

 

[spin cycle]

And how many uk pig breeders then and now? … I bet them the average pig herd was 50 and now is 50,000

14000....so not a great fall considering the decline of the sow herd

But held in far far less hands , dominated by massive company’s , days of the family pig farm all but totally over. Sheep and beef next .

i was thinking today having read another poster stating two early sixty yr old pig farmers were in tears ,i may be lacking empathy, but i wondered how many smaller family pig farms they might have 'sent to the wall'

 

[Hilly]

14000....so not a great fall considering the decline of the sow herd




i was thinking today having read another poster stating two early sixty yr old pig farmers were in tears ,i may be lacking empathy, but i wondered how many smaller family pig farms they might have 'sent to the wall'

No doubt about it it’s just a massive race to the bottom , looks like the finish line is in sight .

 

[Mc115reed]

10000 pig farms....but 1000 of those farms have 360000 of those sows.......of that 10 corporate firms control 140000 sows

Exactly my point.. there’s pig place near here and there is literally pigs as far as the eye can see in every direction how they manage them Iv no bloody idea because there’s thousands of them in individual houses and big houses with multiples in it’s crazy

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I’m sorry but if you ask me it’s sad but true that the pig and chicken sectors have brought this on themselves… in a race too the bottom they’ve been buying up/ renting land all over the country the last few years banging up sheds recklessly left right and centre in a bid to expand into the cheapest fastest meat possible as big and fast as possible… it was always going too catch up with them eventually…

I reckon it's more to do with the retail sector controlling production.

Sheep and cattle wil go the same way if we lose the livestock markets.

 

[Hilly]

I reckon it's more to do with the retail sector controlling production.

Sheep and cattle wil go the same way if we lose the livestock markets.

Aye and half the beef n sheep men won’t support the live marts .

 

[Mc115reed]

I reckon it's more to do with the retail sector controlling production.

Sheep and cattle wil go the same way if we lose the livestock markets.

Absolutely but the pig and chicken men have put themselves in that situation with the big is better attitude… in the last 5 years everywhere you drive there’s massive units going up for pigs and chickens.. pigs going out on bed and breakfast on massive rents…. It’s total madness and it was always going too tumble down the hill bloody fast when the dam eventually gave way…

 

[Hilly]

Absolutely but the pig and chicken men have put themselves in that situation with the big is better attitude… in the last 5 years everywhere you drive there’s massive units going up for pigs and chickens.. pigs going out on bed and breakfast on massive rents…. It’s total madness and it was always going too tumble down the hill bloody fast when the dam eventually gave way…

Some of the corporates are sitting on millions it takes a while yet to pressurise them, this is their wet dream .

 

[Nukemall]

Exactly my point.. there’s pig place near here and there is literally pigs as far as the eye can see in every direction how they manage them Iv no bloody idea because there’s thousands of them in individual houses and big houses with multiples in it’s crazy

So the average herd size is 40 sows
The largest 1000 farms average 360 sows

So what would the flock size for the largest 1000 sheep farmers in the country be?

 

[Mc115reed]

So the average herd size is 40 sows
The largest 1000 farms average 360 sows

So what would the flock size for the largest 1000 sheep farmers in the country be?

Iv no idea what the largest sheep flocks in the country are but I’m pretty sure I read somewhere the average flock size is 400 of the UK’s 33million sheep that’s including lambs and rams…

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

These numbers will probably be on the ahdb website

 

[Hilly]

The pig is great animal but she lends herself to intensity from humans , Tis the pigs i feel for most .

 

[Mc115reed]

These numbers will probably be on the ahdb website

I wasn’t too far off 461 is the average flock size

 

[spin cycle]

So the average herd size is 40 sows
The largest 1000 farms average 360 sows

So what would the flock size for the largest 1000 sheep farmers in the country be?

not quite,,,,10 corporate farms av 14000 each.....990 farms 244 each.....9000 'farms' 4 each