100,000 pigs to be destroyed

[Humble Village Farmer]

Actually yes. With pigs we’d always weigh before so you had a very good idea and you were able to visit the slaughterhouse to see the carcases and we often would win carcase competitions at shows. With regard to everything else we weigh and the buyer weighs too. They aren’t going take my word but i’m not too stupid either. I try not to deal with people i can’t trust but it can backfire at present i’m owed for 70 tonnes of Broccoli and the buyer says he can’t pay if i don’t supply anymore and i won’t supply until he pays. Like pigs somethings have to go off the farm with the hope you might get paid rather than the certainty. However it’s a business model that’s served me well.

How much for a tonne of broccoli?

 

[spin cycle]

lass on bbc2 (J vine) with over 1000 pigs a week going to 2 abbatoirs - talking more the abbatoir jobs (brexit/covid) being the issue - and what a tragedy it would be to kill (esp all the piglets) them on farm.

imho all animals should be killed on farm

It was ms Morgan who i heard...

Gas crisis: Pig farmers fear they may have to cull animals

A shortage of carbon dioxide used to stun pigs at abattoirs means a backlog of animals is growing.

www.bbc.co.uk

75000 pigs a year.....hardly a farm....more like a 'conglomerate'.......i have heard it said the 'big boys will have big cash reserves'..... if this is true then they'll be ok....if not it's their own fault for being greedy

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Looks as though up till now, farmers have been subsidising yet another part of the corporate food system through their fertiliser purchases.

Maybe they will have to pay up for the co2.

What we need is some kind of union or trade organisation for situations like this.

 

[Lowland1]

How much for a tonne of broccoli?

About £600 a tonne.

75000 pigs a year.....hardly a farm....more like a 'conglomerate'.......i have heard it said the 'big boys will have big cash reserves'..... if this is true then they'll be ok....if not it's their own fault for being greedy

Meet our new Farmer Focus writer: Kate Morgan - Farmers Weekly

We asked our new writers to answer a few quick-fire questions to give you a taster of what they'll be talking about before they put pen to paper. Name and

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[Full of bull(s)]

75000 pigs a year.....hardly a farm....more like a 'conglomerate'.......i have heard it said the 'big boys will have big cash reserves'..... if this is true then they'll be ok....if not it's their own fault for being greedy

Not true, they are a family farm that started from scratch less than thirty years ago. Her father used to be a dairy herd manager for Wykeham Estates, left and set up in pigs. They have done fantastically for themselves, him, wife and two daughters but I imagine they will have borrowed a tremendous amount of money to do it over the years. Pioneers in the industry in their relatively short time

 

[JP1]

75000 pigs a year.....hardly a farm....more like a 'conglomerate'.......i have heard it said the 'big boys will have big cash reserves'..... if this is true then they'll be ok....if not it's their own fault for being greedy

Sometimes I don't think folks who know nothing about the pig sector should comment

That's only 2,500 sows and spread over several breeding units indoor and outdoor; all well run and at the forefront of welfare friendly production

 

[glasshouse]

Where

 

[JP1]

Not true, they are a family farm that started from scratch less than thirty years ago. Her father used to be a dairy herd manager for Wykeham Estates, left and set up in pigs. They have done fantastically for themselves, him, wife and two daughters but I imagine they will have borrowed a tremendous amount of money to do it over the years. Pioneers in the industry in their relatively short time

Well done , you got your reply in just before I'd finished typing mine

 

[spin cycle]

Sometimes I don't think folks who know nothing about the pig sector should comment

That's only 2,500 sows and spread over several breeding units indoor and outdoor; all well run and at the forefront of welfare friendly production

ONLY 2500 sows...wow i stand corrected

 

[JP1]

ONLY 2500 sows...wow i stand corrected

I have 40 cows, there's plenty of suckler men with 200+ cows and in Scotland they get a calf subsidy too. I don't think anything about their scale. Similarly an arable unit of 1500 acres isn't that big in our part of the World so I don't think it's a case of rolling eyes

 

[spin cycle]

I have 40 cows, there's plenty of suckler men with 200+ cows and in Scotland they get a calf subsidy too. I don't think anything about their scale. Similarly an arable unit of 1500 acres isn't that big in our part of the World so I don't think it's a case of rolling eyes

and those big units will have cash reserves built up because they're highly 'efficient' and that will see them through the problems.....unless of course they've borrowed heavily driving many smaller units out of business along the way?

at the 'forefront of welfare friendly production' AND vertical integration no doubt

 

[JP1]

and those big units will have cash reserves built up because their highly 'efficient' and that will see them through the problems.....unless of course they've borrowed heavily driving many smaller units out of business along the way?

at the 'forefront of welfare friendly production' AND vertical integration no doubt

I don't think it should be personal. There are three Morgan Daughters in the business and they are carefully independent and strive to do things in a way they think best and major on being at the forefront of welfare friendly production yes

From 2012:

2012 Pig Farmer of the Year: David and Sue Morgan - Farmers Weekly

Trailblazing is a word rarely used in farming but it perfectly describes David and Sue Morgan and their family's pig breeding operation at Pockthorpe,

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[spin cycle]

I don't think it should be personal. There are three Morgan Daughters in the business and they are carefully independent and strive to do things in a way they think best and major on being at the forefront of welfare friendly production yes

From 2012:

2012 Pig Farmer of the Year: David and Sue Morgan - Farmers Weekly

Trailblazing is a word rarely used in farming but it perfectly describes David and Sue Morgan and their family's pig breeding operation at Pockthorpe,

www.fwi.co.uk

it's not 'personal' JP.....but look at the article....they took the supermarkets shekel in 2012....'trailblazers' in vertical integration....they're not alone in that i grant you.....why havn't sainsburys come to their rescue?

 

[Henarar]

It was ms Morgan who i heard...

Gas crisis: Pig farmers fear they may have to cull animals

A shortage of carbon dioxide used to stun pigs at abattoirs means a backlog of animals is growing.

www.bbc.co.uk

just said on the news that the Gov is going to keep the fert factory open to keep supplies of carbon dioxide going

 

[spin cycle]

just said on the news that the Gov is going to keep the fert factory open to keep supplies of carbon dioxide going

so sell the co2 at the proper price and the fertiliser as the by product

 

[Courier]

Looks as though up till now, farmers have been subsidising yet another part of the corporate food system through their fertiliser purchases.

Maybe they will have to pay up for the co2.

What we need is some kind of union or trade organisation for situations like this.

Looks as though Nitrogen fertiliser should be classed as a cheap byproduct of essential Co2 production …!

 

[spin cycle]

Looks as though Nitrogen fertiliser should be classed as a cheap byproduct of essential Co2 production …!

well market logic would say if you produce a lot of n fert....and keep on producing it.....a stockpile could build up leading to the price dropping?

 

[Courier]

We’ll obviously someone has taken the decision that a 400 % rise in the cost of feedstock gas will make prilled “N” unattractive to agriculture.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Apparently some AD plants are producing CO2. One that I know of is producing about a tanker load per day. Need to be from a crop fed plant rather than waste to be food grade.
Did I ever say what a neat idea crop fed AD plants are? (answer: No, until now).

 

[Banana Bar]

Rather than cull them on farm why not hire a truck and unload live pigs on the M25! It will very quickly become someone else’s problem.