100,000 pigs to be destroyed

spin cycle

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We've never had a cull of healthy livestock ever. Processors have refused to take more than 75% of contracted pigs due to labour shortages . This isn't of pig farmers making

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in days of yore in norfolk there were pig markets at norwich...kings lynn and two at a little market town called aylsham......the last sentence of 'what we want' is a bit rich given what the current 'pig farmers' did to all those that used to use these marts......i'm afraid they're getting a dose of their own medicine.....the brexit vote was 4 1/2 yrs ago so why didn't the industry start training/recruiting ready?

where's the banner 'we want our cheap migrant labour back so we can continue to vertically integrate?'
 

JP1

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Well that’s alright as George came for a chat

(whilst Rome was burning )

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JP1

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in days of yore in norfolk there were pig markets at norwich...kings lynn and two at a little market town called aylsham......the last sentence of 'what we want' is a bit rich given what the current 'pig farmers' did to all those that used to use these marts......i'm afraid they're getting a dose of their own medicine.....the brexit vote was 4 1/2 yrs ago so why didn't the industry start training/recruiting ready?

where's the banner 'we want our cheap migrant labour back so we can continue to vertically integrate?'
None of that is relevant this week

it’s not the farmer’s issue but they’ve been left holding the baby
 

spin cycle

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None of that is relevant this week

it’s not the farmer’s issue but they’ve been left holding the baby

of course it is jp....it's 'chickens coming home to roost'.......the industry made no preparation for the eu labour going home and big boys have continued to expand by predating on the smaller......cept the smaller arn't so small anymore

i'm not even sure the eu workers would come back anyway
 

JP1

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of course it is jp....it's 'chickens coming home to roost'.......the industry made no preparation for the eu labour going home and big boys have continued to expand by predating on the smaller......cept the smaller arn't so small anymore

i'm not even sure the eu workers would come back anyway
As @Suffolk Serf stated it's the independents that are being squeezed first and last in all of this . If you don't want to acknowledge a crisis fair enough just don't come on the thread

I actually care about those and their mental health who are at their wits end. To have anything else than that at the forefront of your mind puts you in the John Redwood theory of it's just markets etc etc
 
As @Suffolk Serf stated it's the independents that are being squeezed first and last in all of this . If you don't want to acknowledge a crisis fair enough just don't come on the thread

I actually care about those and their mental health who are at their wits end. To have anything else than that at the forefront of your mind puts you in the John Redwood theory of it's just markets etc etc

Mind you, it was an independent producer that I supplied that dumped me as their weaner supplier with 3 weeks notice (counter to contract) about a year ago.
Then I was "rescued" by a processor owned production company, who promptly dumped me, again with three weeks notice last July when they could see the current disaster on the horizon.
They are all sh1!s as far as i'm concerned.
 

Hilly

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No we haven't. We've had contiguous culls as part of a disease control programme. This welfare cull has nothing to do with animal health at all
Hundreds thousands healthy animals slaughtered under so called contiguous cull , don’t you defend the lies that told plenty healthy stock slaughtered before in this country , perfectly healthy dairy bull calves is another.
 
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spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
The problem is now.
Solutions are needed now.
Dealing with the causes and the rights and wrongs of it is for later debate so that it never happens again.

the only thing i could think of is a levy of £5/pig on those able to get the pigs away.... that'd raise about a million £/week and that money used to buy/dispose of pigs 2-3 weeks away from slaughter....ahdb and nfu organise.....never know perhaps rt and brc might chip in :rolleyes:

despite my apparent lack of sympathy you know i hope it works out for you personally
 

Henarar

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Look I'm too busy to be arguing about your semantics today. Fact we as a concerted industry should be assisting with the argument to Government that this is a very real prospect of a euthanasia programme unassociated with health
never said we shouldn't
 

wilber

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wales
.the brexit vote was 4 1/2 yrs ago so why didn't the industry start training/recruiting ready?

How could any industry prepare when no one knew what the deal was actually going to be... 12 months ago alot of sectors still didnt have a clue how it was going to effect their business and supply chains and whenever any person or news outlet tried to warn of such shortcomings it was all classed as "project fear". :rolleyes:
 

Henarar

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Somerset
At least in most of those cases (shot calves in TB lockdown excepted) there was financial compensation. In the current plight of the pig farmers, there is no market for those pigs, the farmer will have completely run out of space, be running out of money, patience and options.
Really, sometimes, you are just better not posting if you haven't a frigging clue.
I do have a clue
JP made a statement that was wrong, I just pointed that out
 

spin cycle

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north norfolk
How could any industry prepare when no one knew what the deal was actually going to be... 12 months ago alot of sectors still didnt have a clue how it was going to effect their business and supply chains and whenever any person or news outlet tried to warn of such shortcomings it was all classed as "project fear". :rolleyes:

err...'contingency'
 

Henarar

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As @Suffolk Serf stated it's the independents that are being squeezed first and last in all of this . If you don't want to acknowledge a crisis fair enough just don't come on the thread

I actually care about those and their mental health who are at their wits end. To have anything else than that at the forefront of your mind puts you in the John Redwood theory of it's just markets etc etc
The pig farmer I spoke of is independent, as I said he is still getting his pigs away up to now at least
 

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