1st Experience with Electric Car

[Farmer Roy]

im far more interested in some of these tbh

EV ute overload: The electric pickups coming in 2024 - EV Central

Theres no shortage of electrified utes under development: We reckon at least 15 load-haulers are either confirmed or have been promised.

evcentral.com.au

 

[Courier]

Skoda enyaq here - not exactly disco comparable, but largish suv. At 50p/ kwh (most I've had to pay on a longer journey) I worked out it was equivalent to a diesel doing 50mpg.
At home we're charging off the solar "for free" in summer and would hope to be somewhat less than 50p in winter even after our current 13p contract runs out.
Might even risk bringing it up with the trailer to collect some rams from Wales in due course

Hardly “for free” when you have a current PPA - Ours is at 15p per KWh for the next 12 months and our bought in grid electric is at 21.5 for the next 27 months.

 

[Farmer Roy]

As for electric costs, everyone here is now whinging about increased costs.
We have solar panels on our house, which just feed into the grid ( they were already on it when we bought the place ), no battery storage but the long term plan is more panels, battery & go off grid.
We run 2 x fridges, a deep freeze, reverse cycle AC for cooling in summer & heat in winter. We have instant gas hot water, gas stove tops but electric oven. There are 3 of us here.

this is the last electric bill I could find.
My wife works in town & about 15km / day in the Subaru Outback travelling to work.
Our next car will be electric & we will charge it at home


for the record, I have a diesel Hilux ( still with standard tank ), a 75 series Landcruiser with extra tank & total capacity of 180 l, a 100 series wagon with long range tank & over 250 l of fuel on board & even my Yamaha WR450 dirt bike has an aftermarket 18l tank on front & a bespoke 18 l rear saddle tank, giving an increase from about 11 l to now 36 litres ( although I have carried up to 55 l on it at times if needed ), so I definitely understand about range anxiety & long distance travelling

 

[Farmer Roy]

So $323 for 3 months electrickery

a bit over $100 a month
A LOT less than the petrol put into the wife’s Outback . . .

3 hours wages roughly, per month

I wish everything was this cheap

 

[J 1177]

Bumped into him on Saturday late afternoon didn’t look very capable of driving a forager then . The Zetor man did a job on him on Friday night

Knowing the pair of them im not surprised hahaha

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Hardly “for free” when you have a current PPA - Ours is at 15p per KWh for the next 12 months and our bought in grid electric is at 21.5 for the next 27 months.

No ppa here.
But I did put it in " "

 

[fgc325j]

Check that for an electric car. Like a rocket

Saw that on the Tv, it's making me start to change my views on EV's. Also, on Top Gear last night, Freddie Flintoff did a review on the
Rivian pick-up truck from the USA, looked good but a shame he didn't try with an Ifor Williams hooked up.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How long does it take to recharge in a service station , given I would need to charge twice to get there and back , 600miles

 

[neilo]

Skoda enyaq here - not exactly disco comparable, but largish suv. At 50p/ kwh (most I've had to pay on a longer journey) I worked out it was equivalent to a diesel doing 50mpg.
At home we're charging off the solar "for free" in summer and would hope to be somewhat less than 50p in winter even after our current 13p contract runs out.
Might even risk bringing it up with the trailer to collect some rams from Wales in due course

I’ll get the extension leads joined together ready, in case you don’t quite make it.

 

[Highland Mule]

How long does it take to recharge in a service station , given I would need to charge twice to get there and back , 600miles

Depends on the car and the charger, but pick the right combination and it can be faster than you need, plus doesn’t need you to be standing getting cold. Nobody professional/ sensible would drive 300 miles without a short break anyway.

You’d probably get away with only one charge each way too, so no great problem.

 

[Farmer Roy]

I wonder if this is partly the reason the government will have little to do with taking the sting out of fuel prices
Pushing people in a certain direction

govts don’t want you to stop using petroleum fuels . . .

 

[renewablejohn]

As for electric costs, everyone here is now whinging about increased costs.
We have solar panels on our house, which just feed into the grid ( they were already on it when we bought the place ), no battery storage but the long term plan is more panels, battery & go off grid.
We run 2 x fridges, a deep freeze, reverse cycle AC for cooling in summer & heat in winter. We have instant gas hot water, gas stove tops but electric oven. There are 3 of us here.

this is the last electric bill I could find.
My wife works in town & about 15km / day in the Subaru Outback travelling to work.
Our next car will be electric & we will charge it at home


for the record, I have a diesel Hilux ( still with standard tank ), a 75 series Landcruiser with extra tank & total capacity of 180 l, a 100 series wagon with long range tank & over 250 l of fuel on board & even my Yamaha WR450 dirt bike has an aftermarket 18l tank on front & a bespoke 18 l rear saddle tank, giving an increase from about 11 l to now 36 litres ( although I have carried up to 55 l on it at times if needed ), so I definitely understand about range anxiety & long distance travelling View attachment 1045481View attachment 1045482

Have you got your name down for the electric Subaru. From the reviews its proper all wheel drive as you would expect from Subaru.

 

[Nearly]

Until eclectic cars have solar panels on the roof and shuffle their own electrons about to make the wheels go round I'll stick to my 'high % recycled vehicles" where depreciation is a thing of the past.

We're being sold (or hired!) another set of smoke and mirrors.

Fine for inner cities to keep the lungs clean but 'stuff' all needs making somewhere.

 

[renewablejohn]

Is there any car that will wirelessy charge like a phone,it would be great to just park on a saucer.Thanks all for the response on charging costs,it has surprised me as when I looked at ground heat source 15 years ago it was said that electricity had an efficiency of about 25% compared to oil to produce a unit of heat( I think)

Close but the wrong way round. The typical electric heat pump they quote with a 4 to 1 heat ratio so that every 1kw of electric used produces the same heat as 4kw of oil. Totally meaningless figures as your comparing apples and pears.

 

[renewablejohn]

Until eclectic cars have solar panels on the roof and shuffle their own electrons about to make the wheels go round I'll stick to my 'high % recycled vehicles" where depreciation is a thing of the past.

We're being sold (or hired!) another set of smoke and mirrors.

Fine for inner cities to keep the lungs clean but 'stuff' all needs making somewhere.

Already have cars with solar panels built in if you have deep pockets, for normal folk with modest budgets they roll off the production line in 2023 but by the time the advance orders are satisfied it will be 2024 before your able to buy them.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Have you got your name down for the electric Subaru. From the reviews its proper all wheel drive as you would expect from Subaru.

i am a big fan of Subaru & would love an electric one - just haven’t heard anything about one ?

 

[Nearly]

Already have cars with solar panels built in if you have deep pockets, for normal folk with modest budgets they roll off the production line in 2023 but by the time the advance orders are satisfied it will be 2024 before your able to buy them.

I'll have to wait for them to get to 10 years old. By that time big heavy bits will need replacing.
I do like the cars themselves as a driver but as an owner or a minor occupier of the 3rd rock from the sun I'm not convinced.

 

[john 650]

How long does it take to recharge in a service station , given I would need to charge twice to get there and back , 600miles

West Wales to Brighton- would suggest a 15 mins top up at Chippenham truck stop on M4. Wouldn't need any more than that- depending on car- but most new will have 220-250 mile range now,

Use this to give you an idea-

Map of electric charging points for electric cars UK: Zapmap

UK-wide map of electric car charging points allowing EV drivers to find EV charge points and plan electric journeys to the nearest charging point.

www.zap-map.com

 

[D14]

Out on saturday with a large group of people for a birthday party. A very diverse bunch from farmers, accountants, solicitors a professional golfer, retired people. Basically a right mix. Anyway some of them had electric cars - Tesla, BMW, Audi, Nissan, VW. None of them were getting the brochure mileage sold to them and it becomes even worse when your running the air con in the summer and heater in the winter. Also night driving speeded up the battery discharging due to lights. All of them were getting more fed up of the queuing for a charge on the motorway network. In fact one lady last week pulled into a service station to charge as she'd run from london to Edinburgh and then had a 4 hour wait until she'd got onto a charger and then the charging time itself. They all said 2 years ago charging out and about was easy and there weren't many elec cars on the road. However today its a nightmare if you are a high mileage driver due to work. So the conclusion they've alll come to is elec is fine for a house runabout such as shopping or the school run but they are no longer of any use to people doing lots of mileage.

 

[db9go]

Out on saturday with a large group of people for a birthday party. A very diverse bunch from farmers, accountants, solicitors a professional golfer, retired people. Basically a right mix. Anyway some of them had electric cars - Tesla, BMW, Audi, Nissan, VW. None of them were getting the brochure mileage sold to them and it becomes even worse when your running the air con in the summer and heater in the winter. Also night driving speeded up the battery discharging due to lights. All of them were getting more fed up of the queuing for a charge on the motorway network. In fact one lady last week pulled into a service station to charge as she'd run from london to Edinburgh and then had a 4 hour wait until she'd got onto a charger and then the charging time itself. They all said 2 years ago charging out and about was easy and there weren't many elec cars on the road. However today its a nightmare if you are a high mileage driver due to work. So the conclusion they've alll come to is elec is fine for a house runabout such as shopping or the school run but they are no longer of any use to people doing lots of mileage.

Been there done that and all this talk about pricing nobody is saying how much dearer the EV cars are in the first place
I have had two Tesla model S so called 4wd do not bother