200kgs urea down spout for spring barley

[ajd132]

If I were to put 200kgs/ha of urea down the spout for spring barley, being all of its N requirement will it burn the seed?
My view is use less total N but place it better for spring malting barley on strong land.
I currently put about 30kgs liquid N down the spout but I am looking at converting it to granular so I have two big seed hoppers when not using fert in the autumn.

 

[SilliamWhale]

The likelihood it will be fine. But I would go lower and top up later

 

[Northdowns Martin]

I put Urea pills down spout albeit with OSR seed, it definitely effected germination, spoke to some else who had same results with linseed and Urea.

 

[Spencer]

Something about huge doses of urea going in the ground not being great I believe.. sorry but can’t firm up on the reasons

 

[Clive]

not sure i would risk that much

but it will probably be ok

........... let us know !

 

[teslacoils]

Not sure about down the spout but I'd be fine broadcasting that and having the drill mix it in.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Any whats to gain?

 

[ajd132]

Any whats to gain?

Fertiliser placed in the row so total dose could be a fair bit less and much better use efficiency. That’s what I was thinking anyway.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Fertiliser placed in the row so total dose could be a fair bit less and much better use efficiency. That’s what I was thinking anyway.

Ive never seen any data proving that. Sounds nice though.

Personally Id put 30 units max on as a pop up and then the rest again

 

[ajd132]

Ive never seen any data proving that. Sounds nice though.

Personally Id put 30 units max on as a pop up and then the rest again

It’s more of a theory than proven.

 

[ajd132]

Infact I will yo the liquid fert rate to give 90kgs of n now on a tramline as a trial whilst I’m drilling to see what happens!

 

[SilliamWhale]

It’s more of a theory than proven.

Id like to hear more from the Danes on N efficiency

 

[deleted user 837354]

Maybe put it on with spinner and then drill to 'incorporate'? Barley is good at finding N.

 

[ajd132]

Giving it a go one a 36m tramline however this is with Omex liquid N. Easy to do trials like this with12m ctf

 

[SilliamWhale]

Because its so moist it will probably be fine. Personally I think year in year out I'd err on the cautious side

 

[Cowcorn]

72 units acre in a compound is what i will be using down the spout never had any problems with germination . Urea could be different , the Canadians sideband urea if using large amounts i think .
Fert down the spout is no theory, its a proven fact see Teagasc research..

 

[ajd132]

72 units acre in a compound is what i will be using down the spout never had any problems with germination . Urea could be different , the Canadians sideband urea if using large amounts i think .
Fert down the spout is no theory, its a proven fact see Teagasc research..

I know it works. I just want to see just how much we can cut back by better placement and use efficiency. I don’t no what a unit an acre is, sorry!

 

[SilliamWhale]

I know it works. I just want to see just how much we can cut back by better placement and use efficiency. I don’t no what a unit an acre is, sorry!

It says on the bag what a unit is!!!

 

[Brisel]

Ask an Aussie. They do this all the time. All down the same spout but the rates will probably be lower.
@Farmer Roy @TelesnaAg @CornishTone (I know you’re not Australian)

 

[Cowcorn]

I know it works. I just want to see just how much we can cut back by better placement and use efficiency. I don’t no what a unit an acre is, sorry!

Do you remember the old Kit Kat ad ?? You cant plough, you cant drive in a straight line , you dont know what a unit of N is ..... Youll go a long way .........