2022 Sugar beet price not enough

[DrWazzock]

know where there is a 4 wd one and converted to continental webs too

I have a machine here with no tractor unit that’s all complete otherwise, minus rod links. Thought about converting it to hydrostatic transmission and hydraulic conveyor drives using a unit out of a Bateman Hi Lo and using continental webs. Put a decent cab on it.
A pipe dream of course. Always too much farming to do.
Something similar is available from Italy. Price about £70k last time I looked.

 

[Spud]

I have a machine here with no tractor unit that’s all complete otherwise, minus rod links. Thought about converting it to hydrostatic transmission and hydraulic conveyor drives using a unit out of a Bateman Hi Lo and using continental webs. Put a decent cab on it.
A pipe dream of course. Always too much farming to do.
Something similar is available from Italy. Price about £70k last time I looked.

You'd buy a 6row Matrot M41 sp for under 5 grand but need someone to run alongside with a trailer

 

[DrWazzock]

Think I’ll just keep it at shoestring hobby level. It’s the only way we ever made a profit. I was looking at pricing of concrete pads etc. Megabucks now. Would make the job easier but we can manage with what we’ve got, as ever.

 

[DrWazzock]

The problem I find with second hand kit is you can nearly spend as much as the purchase price doing it up, whereas the kit we have have has most problems ironed out.

 

[Will 1594]

Wazcock
buy this for parts ,will bring it up for you ,and spied another cyclopse ,other day ,with a 885 on it going to call next time and see if for sale
talking to mike russell ,he said ,cooor when i was an old boy , we thought we had won the world one day lifted 4/1/2 acre including headlands , he said he was about 12 , theirs had a 4000 engine in the 3000 sat on the top ,

 

[alomy75]

Wazcock
buy this for parts ,will bring it up for you ,and spied another cyclopse ,other day ,with a 885 on it going to call next time and see if for sale
talking to mike russell ,he said ,cooor when i was an old boy , we thought we had won the world one day lifted 4/1/2 acre including headlands , he said he was about 12 , theirs had a 4000 engine in the 3000 sat on the top ,

Is that a wet weather kit on top?!

 

[Rookie]

Has anybody returned their contract offer ?
This Saturday is the deadline for any future linked contracts. A week later for multi and one year contracts.
Personally I'm just going with some on 1year and remainder is in multi year but not extending.
With grain prices and growing costs being high I can't see the one year price dropping below £27/t for the following year therefore don't think the £25/t multi year extension is of interest.

Does anybody understand the future linked contracts and know what price / t beet would currently be ?
What are others doing?
Newark is still having break downs. No return loads yesterday and some beet is already being diverted to Wissington. Annoying as perfect lifting conditions but not so ideal to be left long in a clamp.

 

[Devil's advocate]

 

[spin cycle]

meanwhile there's a rational in new farmers guide for sale ... doc

 

[Gav]

meanwhile there's a rational in new farmers guide for sale ... doc

Looks tidy from that side…..you should see the elevator side of it……

 

[spin cycle]

Looks tidy from that side…..you should see the elevator side of it……

how do you know ...been to see it?

 

[Gav]

how do you know ...been to see it?

It’s for sale elsewhere as well

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

how do you know ...been to see it?

Have you not seen it on Facebook when you've been stalking??

 

[spin cycle]

Have you not seen it on Facebook when you've been stalking??

no.....have now....though kinda wished i hadn't

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

Has anybody returned their contract offer ?
This Saturday is the deadline for any future linked contracts. A week later for multi and one year contracts.
Personally I'm just going with some on 1year and remainder is in multi year but not extending.
With grain prices and growing costs being high I can't see the one year price dropping below £27/t for the following year therefore don't think the £25/t multi year extension is of interest.

Does anybody understand the future linked contracts and know what price / t beet would currently be ?
What are others doing?
Newark is still having break downs. No return loads yesterday and some beet is already being diverted to Wissington. Annoying as perfect lifting conditions but not so ideal to be left long in a clamp.

Getting increasingly repetitive emails asking to fill in the contract.....are they getting concerned that not enough been returned?

 

[Gav]

no.....have now....though kinda wished i hadn't

Sorry, not sorry

 

[Rookie]

Getting increasingly repetitive emails asking to fill in the contract.....are they getting concerned that not enough been returned?

Same here. Not done mine yet, thinking of taking a planned field out as I’ll be over quota this year so if I fall short next year so be it!
Put field in with spring barley instead. Less hassle , cheaper growing costs and hopefully prices will remain good.

 

[Goffer]

Getting increasingly repetitive emails asking to fill in the contract.....are they getting concerned that not enough been returned?

Bs rang yesterday prompting us to reply. Quietly let on they'd lost one grower of 10k ton plus

 

[DrWazzock]

meanwhile there's a rational in new farmers guide for sale ... doc

I saw it. But no, I have decided to opt for a simpler life. Concentrating on combinables and parking up the beet harvesting kit.
16 acres of spring barley instead. Will take no time at all and much less hassle.
Cyclone is having last laugh till the end. Hydraulic filter doing its regular blocking up trick in the DB780 power unit and now starting to slow the hydraulics down quite seriously. Will have to drain transmission oil and fit new filter or risk knackering the pump a few acres from the end. The old oil is going back in though after passing through a pair of the Mrs's old tights. I never have managed to get all the water oil/emulsion out of the system so every two years the filter blocks. Every previous time I have put new oil in, but it never thanks me, hence the old stuff will be reused especially at todays prices.
So that's the end of 70 years beet growing here, not that our 500 tons will make much difference. We are right on the edge of the catchment area as well so no great loss either way. Next year South of France from October to March.

 

[robbie]

I get the impression people aren't falling over themselves to sign a contract like BS thought they would. I've had no end of reminders to complete my contract and had my fields man leave a message that he'd like to pop round and "have a catch-up".