25 acre Farm in France £80K

14 years ago I bought a farm in the north west of the Haute Vienne including this old stone farmhouse and buildings in a small hamlet. The house was rented out until march 2012 and needs a good tidy up rather than a full restoration. Like many limousin farmhouses only the ground floor has been occupied. The "grenier" above would provide enough space for four bedrooms if converted and the windows are already in place.

Currently downstairs there are two bedrooms, a bathroom, kitchen, sitting room and pantry.

The house was restored in the 1980s so is dry lined has modern plumbing, electrics and a septic tank. The roof is sound though there is a leak in the flashing around one of the chimneys.

In the same farmyard there are a selection of outbuildings,stables and a large timber framed barn plus a modern garage. These are in various states from ruin to OK conditon. None of these outbuildings are perfect but could provide basic storage and one day the potential to enlarge the house.

As I own this yard plus all the land around it I am prepared to be flexible as to what is included, I could sell just the house or I would consider selling the entire yard and up to 10 hectares of arable land, two small fields in perm pasture with a stream and woodland. For the lot I am looking for 100000 euros (about £80,000). I also own other houses very near by if someone was interested in two houses etc.

I would also consider selling the biggest barn plus some land separately. It really is just a question of what you want and what is your budget?

Please bear in mind that the house is not isolated as it is in a hamlet but could be made very private and that the out buildings will need work. I am open to any offers, (you won't upset me!), as I have just too many projects on the go.

Photos here if anybody is interested

http://limousin.angloinfo.com/class...arns-and-10-hectares-of-land-woods-and-stream

 

[Fox Red]

Just Google Earthed this place, lovely little village couldn't find the farm though. Now if only I had a spare 80 Grand

 

[Badshot]

That would be 10 times that price round here.

 

[JP1]

Just Google Earthed this place, lovely little village couldn't find the farm though. Now if only I had a spare 80 Grand

+1

 

[Post Driver]

I've done a couple of fencing jobs in France and its fantastic value.

We fenced a 6 acre paddock over here back in January that cost the client £80k. No running water, footpath across the middle and we charged £3k alone to clear the scrub and hedges.

Shame the French don't use fencing contractors or i'd be there in a shot. One other problem is getting the other half to come with me

 

[JP1]

I've done a couple of fencing jobs in France and its fantastic value.

We fenced a 6 acre paddock over here back in January that cost the client £80k. No running water, footpath across the middle and we charged £3k alone to clear the scrub and hedges.

Shame the French don't use fencing contractors or i'd be there in a shot. One other problem is getting the other half to come with me

You won't get much work charging £80k a paddock

 

[nxy]

For those of you that have been asking about this property it is called La Grenarderie in the commune of 87330 St Martial sur Isop, you should be able to find it on google earth. There are some more photos on two estate agents websites.

Legetts have it listed here

http://www.frenchestateagents.com/f...ies-sur-issoires-haute-vienne-limousin-france

and the French Property People here

http://www.thefrenchpropertypeople.com/over 100/Properties/FPP2020/FPP2020.html

On these sites they are offering the farm with only 5 acres but as stated above I will sell it with up to 25 acres for 100000 euros.

 

[nxy]

This has still not sold. If anybody was interested I could find some more land to put with it. Just let me know what you are looking for.

 

[multi power]

why so cheap? whats the catch?

 

[Nearly]

why so cheap? whats the catch?

the French!


only joking.
It might be the best investment you make @multi power ? Look at it closely.

 

[nxy]

why so cheap? whats the catch?

There is no catch, the Haute Vienne has some of the cheapest land and houses in Western Europe.

Generations of young French people have left the area leaving behind many empty houses. My parish (St Martial sur Isop) covers an area of a couple of thousand hectares and the population in 1900 was over 600, today it is 140, of whom 40 are English. That is 5 people per square km.

Land is around 3000 euros a hectare and the government is very supportive of farming and especially young farmers.

I could be talked into putting 20 or 30 hectares more land with this which would be enough to give someone a start. Any questions just ask.

 

[Fox Red]

Would love to have a go on my own. How does the French government support young farmers?

 

[nxy]

Would love to have a go on my own. How does the French government support young farmers?

A start up payment, cheap loans with delayed repayment of capital, buildings grants, extra livestock quota, first refusal on neigbouring land even after someone else has bought it, grants to build a house if you buy bare land and loads of other stuff I have forgotten like extra single farm payment.

 

[multi power]

but what about all the red tape etc? whats the prospects for expanding? cou you keep say 500 dairy cows, if you wanted to?

 

[Nearly]

but what about all the red tape etc? whats the prospects for expanding? cou you keep say 500 dairy cows, if you wanted to?

Not many neighbours to object to the planning application by the sound of it.
If you're over there why would you want to milk 500 cows, milk 100 and have a life. It's just different.

 

[nxy]

but what about all the red tape etc? whats the prospects for expanding? cou you keep say 500 dairy cows, if you wanted to?

Expanding is not a problem, plenty of land available until you get too big then you run the risk of having deals taken away from you by the SAFER who sell the land to your smaller/younger neigbours. The SAFER is pretty weak though in the Haute Vienne. I have only had one deal stopped by them in 14 years.

500 cows however would make you public enemy number 1. Even milking 100 cows would be unusual. I think the average dairy herd here is something like 50 cows.

The french ideal is a countryside full of peasants with less than 100 acres. The reality is they are merely slowing the process down.

 

[bobk]

Expanding is not a problem, plenty of land available until you get too big then you run the risk of having deals taken away from you by the SAFER who sell the land to your smaller/younger neigbours. The SAFER is pretty weak though in the Haute Vienne. I have only had one deal stopped by them in 14 years.

500 cows however would make you public enemy number 1. Even milking 100 cows would be unusual. I think the average dairy herd here is something like 50 cows.

The french ideal is a countryside full of peasants with less than 100 acres. The reality is they are merely slowing the process down.

Well I've met Nathalie Bonnefort, blimey she's a big lass

 

[multi power]

Expanding is not a problem, plenty of land available until you get too big then you run the risk of having deals taken away from you by the SAFER who sell the land to your smaller/younger neigbours. The SAFER is pretty weak though in the Haute Vienne. I have only had one deal stopped by them in 14 years.

500 cows however would make you public enemy number 1. Even milking 100 cows would be unusual. I think the average dairy herd here is something like 50 cows.

The french ideal is a countryside full of peasants with less than 100 acres. The reality is they are merely slowing the process down.

what is this SAFER all about?

 

[multi power]

Not many neighbours to object to the planning application by the sound of it.
If you're over there why would you want to milk 500 cows, milk 100 and have a life. It's just different.

but why milk 500, 1000 is a nicer amount

 

[nxy]

what is this SAFER all about?

Government Quango that decides who is the priority to get land once it is sold.

I am no longer a priority (too many hectares and too old) so if I buy any land the SAFER asks any local young or small farmers if they would like it instead of me. If anybody is interested the SAFER take it off me and sells it to them. They pay the same price I was going to pay plus commission that covers the SAFER's costs. SAFER receive no government funding so if they don't break up "done deals" they have budget problems. They have nice offices and good pensions to keep up so they can be a pain in the arse.

So basically civil service gone mad = France.