25kW Wind Turbine

[Eocycle - Dan]

Hello, just wanted to say that Eocycle is now listed in the directory under renewables (the only ones so far) . https://www.agvendor.co.uk/organisation/eocycle/ should you want to have a look. Thanks

 

[Bob]

How can this stack up financially without fit?

 

[Eocycle - Dan]

Hi Bob, the FIT was designed to make the adoption of various technologies more attractive until they became financially viable without subsidies. Whilst the perception might be that since the FIT ended renewables aren't worth it, it is in effect the real beginning for these technologies. The EO25 (25kW) was designed from the off to be economically self sufficient, unlike many others, hence why Eocycle is one of the only players active in this sector today. The key of course is to match good wind speed with a high self-consumption ratio. With adequate conditions payback is between 6 and 10 years and the electricity produced can cost from as low as 5 pence per kWh over the lifetime of the turbine. Not to mention the carbon savings which are increasinlgy becoming a factor.

 

[renewablejohn]

Hi Bob, the FIT was designed to make the adoption of various technologies more attractive until they became financially viable without subsidies. Whilst the perception might be that since the FIT ended renewables aren't worth it, it is in effect the real beginning for these technologies. The EO25 (25kW) was designed from the off to be economically self sufficient, unlike many others, hence why Eocycle is one of the only players active in this sector today. The key of course is to match good wind speed with a high self-consumption ratio. With adequate conditions payback is between 6 and 10 years and the electricity produced can cost from as low as 5 pence per kWh over the lifetime of the turbine. Not to mention the carbon savings which are increasinlgy becoming a factor.

Still not a cat in hells chance of getting planning permission for any reasonable size turbine here. ie 500kw and above.

 

[Eocycle - Dan]

Hi John, it all depends on your energetic needs, it makes no sense to export/sell excess energy nowadays unless you are a multi million £ investor, in which case go really big. But if you can't get planning, it's a none starter. We actually have a 25kW going through planning in Lancashire as we speak. Whilst it remains an unnecessarily convoluted process, it is not an impossible task if done in the right way. We work with an expert with over 100 planning applications for wind turbines of all sizes under his belt and who, as result, knows how to navigate the system.

 

[fermerboy]

Owning a 20kw machine made by a competitor which has been up for long enough to be on the good Fit rate, it still hasnt cleared its buying bill.
We were promised 4 year payback and I realistically and wrongly thought it would payback in 7years and here we are still.
We are on deemed export so electricity savings habe been hard to quantify but even being generous we are still a bit off.
We are on a good average site 700ft high in NE Scotland so its not that either.

Even if your machine is spectacularly efficient and reliable I cant see it stacking up in the timescale you suggest, even counting electricity at about 10-12p.

I personally like the idea of producing our own power, and really hope that "farm sized" battery storage becomes viable allowing is to save a windy day so to speak.

 

[Exfarmer]

Hi John, it all depends on your energetic needs, it makes no sense to export/sell excess energy nowadays unless you are a multi million £ investor, in which case go really big. But if you can't get planning, it's a none starter. We actually have a 25kW going through planning in Lancashire as we speak. Whilst it remains an unnecessarily convoluted process, it is not an impossible task if done in the right way. We work with an expert with over 100 planning applications for wind turbines of all sizes under his belt and who, as result, knows how to navigate the system.

Are you the same guys who put up dozens of 5 and ten kw turbines on farms 7-8 years ago?

 

[Exfarmer]

Owning a 20kw machine made by a competitor which has been up for long enough to be on the good Fit rate, it still hasnt cleared its buying bill.
We were promised 4 year payback and I realistically and wrongly thought it would payback in 7years and here we are still.
We are on deemed export so electricity savings habe been hard to quantify but even being generous we are still a bit off.
We are on a good average site 700ft high in NE Scotland so its not that either.

Even if your machine is spectacularly efficient and reliable I cant see it stacking up in the timescale you suggest, even counting electricity at about 10-12p.

I personally like the idea of producing our own power, and really hope that "farm sized" battery storage becomes viable allowing is to save a windy day so to speak.

Some meters will still read your export if you go through the cycles on the display. If you are very lucky, you may syill have the old fashioned meter which runs backwards when you export and you will in effect gain twice

 

[Funny Farmer]

Some meters will still read your export if you go through the cycles on the display. If you are very lucky, you may syill have the old fashioned meter which runs backwards when you export and you will in effect gain twice

Sadly we don't have "net metering" in this country. If you have an old mechanical meter that is running backwards you could be heading for trouble best to report it and have it changed.

 

[Exfarmer]

Sadly we don't have "net metering" in this country. If you have an old mechanical meter that is running backwards you could be heading for trouble best to report it and have it changed.

I had one for several years and could not persaude the company to change it. It wasonly after I had been away for 8 weeks in the summer that they agreed we had a problem. Even then the girl told me ,not to worry it has probably just turned over the maximum and started from zero again.