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Ha.
What I meant was. That you can probably produce beef cheaper than the Irish, even without the implants. (Give the customer what they want).
And a lot of others in the world, even cheaper.
And yes.
We do, do "feed lot" beef ourselves, using grains and other "waste" products. Maybe not in big open paddocks. But in sheds with a few token grazers, on the home paddock, in front of the house.
Its just that many are too snobbish to accept their production methods aren't too much different.
They can produce beef cheaper than us as well, that should be the worry on top of the fact they can undercut the Irish. The last thing the Uk beef sector need is even more cheaper imports. But I suspect Joe Public won’t mind..
 

Blaithin

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Beef can be produced cheaper because they buy it off farm cheaper. Cow calf prices are lower.

They can then feed them cheaper because farmers get paid less for their grain.

Who over there is volunteering to take cuts in what they get for their beef and grains so that it can be finished cheaper and be more competitive?
 
Beef can be produced cheaper because they buy it off farm cheaper. Cow calf prices are lower.

They can then feed them cheaper because farmers get paid less for their grain.

Who over there is volunteering to take cuts in what they get for their beef and grains so that it can be finished cheaper and be more competitive?

I can look at the USDA info but I am not convinced US beef is that much cheaper.
 

turbo

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They can produce beef cheaper than us as well, that should be the worry on top of the fact they can undercut the Irish. The last thing the Uk beef sector need is even more cheaper imports. But I suspect Joe Public won’t mind..
Didn’t do the retailer’s much good when they bought in polish beef at the beginning of the crisis to under cut our prices did it
 

caveman

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I have no clue what it is in grocery stores.

Fed cattle look to be dropping below $95/cwt and dressed carcass is around $212/cwt.

So £56 and £126.
Would that cwt be 100lbs or 112lbs?
If its 100lbs, and your currency conversion is correct, I make that approx £1.23 kg on the hoof. Or approx £1.10 kg at 112lbs.
 
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Didn’t do the retailer’s much good when they bought in polish beef at the beginning of the crisis to under cut our prices did it
Because they stuck it on a shelf with Polish on it - it’s normally sold via food service, ready made meals and ingredients sectors on a normal day to great success and without a whisper of a customer complaint. You need to open your eyes to how meat is traded, processed and retailed.
 

turbo

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Because they stuck it on a shelf with Polish on it - it’s normally sold via food service, ready made meals and ingredients sectors on a normal day to great success and without a whisper of a customer complaint. You need to open your eyes to how meat is traded, processed and retailed.
So why is America beef a big threat then,if it’s cheaper it will replace the imports from the eu we have now that go into the markets you described
 
So why is America beef a big threat then,if it’s cheaper it will replace the imports from the eu we have now that go into the markets you described
Do you seriously need me to explain why even cheaper imports (US or any other) are a even greater threat to British beef than the current status quo...
 
Not only that, but apparently, with the UK already being able to import any amount of cheap beef from various places, the stuff does not appear to be very popular with retailers. Why this would magically change if US or Australian beef were available I have no idea.
What has retailers got to do with it? You also don’t understand how this produce gets from (foreign) farm to plate. Research how much Thai chicken we sell in Tesco and then how much we import. Not everything has a label on it and that’s why the USA are keen we don’t slap it on their produce either.
 
What has retailers got to do with it? You also don’t understand how this produce gets from (foreign) farm to plate. Research how much Thai chicken we sell in Tesco and then how much we import. Not everything has a label on it and that’s why the USA are keen we don’t slap it on their produce either.

I don't see it on the shelf.

If cheap imported meat is going into highly processed foods it is of no concern to me- its probably bilge and best avoided anyway.
 

Blaithin

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Would that cwt be 100lbs or 112lbs?
If its 100lbs, and your currency conversion is correct, I make that approx £1.23 kg on the hoof. Or approx £1.10 kg at 112lbs.
It would be 100 lbs.

For fat cattle. Different prices for the feeders.
 
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