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400 acres, 40 miles away.

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by Lexion1000, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. ajd132

    ajd132 Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    Think blackearth went bust...!
     
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  2. Cowcorn

    Cowcorn Member

    Well done thats quite an achivement. The scenarios you depict are wellknown to me, i grew up working scattered parcels of rented land across the three parishes constantly moving machines up to 20 miles usually at night to be in place for the next day . How many times you would finish cutting a field at seven o clock drop off the header and hit the road to arrive at the next field at ten , fill a trailer then back to the last field in the tractor to collect the van to go home. You worked hard but money was made, nowadays we still travel but most of the fields are owned and a lot closer to home. When labour became expensive and we scaled back after the sfp scheme allowed stacking of entitlements the workload became manageable. I often feel tempted to rent extra land far away but age and them pesky cows are getting in the way, but still the call of the road is strong.......
     
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  3. Cowcorn

    Cowcorn Member

    Ah a true conacre man .
     
  4. wurzell1976

    wurzell1976 Member

    Location:
    Isle of Axholme
    I could write a book ,it has been a bumpy ride.I used to ride around looking for un farmed land next to industrial and residential areas then simply knocking on doors.I once travelled from s yorks to Scarbrough to work and drill 200 acres on contract with my MF 699 and stayed in a caravan,ploughed over 1000 acres of strong land near York ,running an under powered hire tractor(it fired and burnt out) on a 5 furrow plough 24 hrs (with help) when i was 21.The list goes on ,but now when i look back, what a life i"ve had to now.I am passionate about my farming ,and 30 years on ,about to make the biggest move of my life to a ring fence farm at the other end of the country ,(mortgage, but no f-ing rent or land lords).I just hope the Southerners will appreciate my sense of humour.
     
  5. Cowcorn

    Cowcorn Member

    Once again welldone shows that a bit of stubborn dont take no for an answer attidude and hard work with all cash kit can still make a difference. Write that book i would love to read it . Best of luck in the new place. Go eiri an bothar leat
     
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  6. wurzell1976

    wurzell1976 Member

    Location:
    Isle of Axholme
    Thankyou Cowcorn ,It has been down to at least 6 generations of destitute farmers before me, that have have passed on some sort of genetic disorder, that has kept me going .
     
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  7. digger64

    digger64 Member

    Or you could consolidate use a contractor and get rid of alot of costs , surely if you have to take more land for your machines all you are doing is increasing risk
     
  8. ajd132

    ajd132 Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    I’m sure there is many contract farmers who could sell all their kit, give up all their contract farms and rent out their own land to another hero and make more money!
     
  9. digger64

    digger64 Member

    I didnt mean sell all the kit ,but you could streamline it and cooperate rather than bid against each other , surely
    it would be better to run a machine at capacity then have someone come in to help you and you help them vice versa with a different operation bartering on account perhaps and having a informal square up at the end of the year or I suppose you could go 40 miles get a few punctures , some tyres and say how you have spread your costs geographically.
     
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  10. T Hectares

    T Hectares Member

    Location:
    Berkshire
    I'm sure you'll be fine, a good friend of mine made the leap in the opposite direction and despite sounding a bit northern now it went well...

    It would be good to follow a "big farm move thread" on here ??
     
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  11. wurzell1976

    wurzell1976 Member

    Location:
    Isle of Axholme
    Talking to our children ,you would think it the easiest thing ever.I may post more as things develop , i"m not sure my mental health will still be intact by then.And i know for certain my bank balance will be in tatters.Most of my family and friends think i have lost all sense.
     
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  12. ajd132

    ajd132 Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    Totally agree on that
     
  13. broadacre?
     
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  14. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Dryland. Unirrigated. Big fields. Low input, low output. How most of Australia’s combinable crops are produced.
     
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  15. most likely direct drilled then?
     
  16. 1300 acres of what enterprises?
     
  17. theres a lot of differing opinions on this thread but not many facts lets see a rough breakdown of expected contractor fee and profit percentage split on this 4t/acre wheat land, so we can work out the potential margin, @Lexion1000 @ajd132 @Clive are the experts in cfas so lets see some figures
     
  18. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    I'm more than happy to share VC data etc but fixed /operation costs are commercially sensitive and I'm not about to start sharing them with customers and competition online !
     
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  19. ajd132

    ajd132 Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    I would echo that sentiment!
     
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  20. ajd132

    ajd132 Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    You can roughly work it out yourself with you’re own costs and to keep it simple do it as a 50:50 as lee suggested earlier. And don’t budget for 400 acres of 4t/acre wheat.
     
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