4000 series Fastrac user experience ?

[Clive]

Seen promo pics with spinner on the back and hopper on the platform!

Be near perfect weight distrubution on the one you saw.

The trouble with stuff on the rear platform is the VERY high centre of gravity - I was main driver of the fastrac we ran years ago and had a demount sprayer and demount Amazone fert spreader - frankly it was scary on the road and around islands, especially when on row crops

weight distribution wasn't that good either really, with sprayer on we had to to run lot of front weight to keep wheels on the ground. If you want to use rear platform I reckon a chassis stretch would be a wise move and make them loads better

 

[General-Lee]

The trouble with stuff on the rear platform is the VERY high centre of gravity - I was main driver of the fastrac we ran years ago and had a demount sprayer and demount Amazone fert spreader - frankly it was scary on the road and around islands, especially when on row crops

weight distribution wasn't that good either really, with sprayer on we had to to run lot of front weight to keep wheels on the ground. If you want to use rear platform I reckon a chassis stretch would be a wise move and make them loads better

Yeah hadn’t thought of high centre of gravity.

 

[Tom H]

Not enough rubber as standard for me. You can fit 710's but that takes you over 2.5m in width so you are restricted to 40kph going by the law. 600 Axiobib tyres is the next best option with tyre inflation (CTIs). You could make a 724 even better with CTIs too! For anything haulage, or high speed in field they are great though. Very comfy.

 

[Chae1]

I don't understand this as most demount sprayers all weight between wheels. Nothing hanging over back.

 

[Clive]

Yeah hadn’t thought of high centre of gravity.

its a lot of weight a long way up when full

I know there are companies that do chassis stretch conversions but surprised JCB don't offer a LWB version as it would be ideal for lime / self prop conversion

 

[Clive]

I don't understand this as most demount sprayers all weight between wheels. Nothing hanging over back.

........apart from the booms !

 

[Chae1]

........apart from the booms !

Guess I'm lucky with aluminium booms. I find weight distribution very good though. Can spread fert with 2t in spinner and don't need front weights.

 

[Clive]

Not enough rubber as standard for me. You can fit 710's but that takes you over 2.5m in width so you are restricted to 40kph going by the law. 600 Axiobib tyres is the next best option with tyre inflation (CTIs). You could make a 724 even better with CTIs too! For anything haulage, or high speed in field they are great though. Very comfy.

tyres are my issue for field work but in this case i'm looking at a 99% road work tractor, bowser to support 2 sprayers, seed trailer to the drills, harvest corn carting etc but with ability too back up a 724 if we had one break at a critical time

 

[Clive]

Guess I'm lucky with aluminium booms. I find weight distribution very good though. Can spread fert with 2t in spinner and don't need front weights.

is the spinner demount on platform ? weight wasn't the issue with the spinner it was the high COG that made it a handful

 

[vantage]

is the spinner demount on platform ? weight wasn't the issue with the spinner it was the high COG that made it a handful

Does the new fastrac have self leveling air suspension now?

 

[zealman]

I’ve got a 4220 with about 500 ish hours on now, so bit soon to talk about reliability. It’s had the air brake sensors, and that’s it. Performance wise, I can’t fault it. I also have a 7930, and on our work which is ploughing, tillage, planting or drilling, the JCB will do anything the JD can do. I would say that if you were running at the outer limits of the horsepower weight traction compaction conundrum, the JCB would retire first, but for normal operations it will stand up to any tractor. It’s really well balanced for drawbar pulling, 4.7 tonne on the front, 4 on rear, 8.7 total (that’s actually what they weigh, not what it says in the book). For me it does have a few user friendliness niggles, but overall it is a really well sorted machine, a pleasant place to spend the day, and performs as well as any tractor on fieldwork.

 

[Andrew]

Does the new fastrac have self leveling air suspension now?

Self levelling oil. Rides much better than our Scania on air, although a lot of that is seating position.

 

[Wreckit Ralf]

Seen a few 4220's going about, but I've never seen a 4190 or 4160, are they considered too heavy for their HP? As i was looking at the size of a 4220 in the dealers and 160hp might well be under-powered for the weight and running a vario transmission.

 

[deere150]

500 hrs on this, no regrets yet. Only criticisms are it's a bit light on back end when turning on bankings with tanker or trailer, and back tyres do seem to be wearing a bit fast

 

[Superted820]

My only comment on them is that I had one on demo and loved it! I just wish I could afford one!
I’d love to try one for a year and see just how versatile they really are now. As a small contractor a tractor needs to be able to do everything equally well. I have no doubts that the new fastrac would be more than capable, it’s just an awful lot of money to be a bit disappointed if it wasn’t as versatile as needed.

 

[D14]

What kind of money are they? Have heard around £120k on farm with a high spec and steer ready?

 

[Pint]

Guess I'm lucky with aluminium booms. I find weight distribution very good though. Can spread fert with 2t in spinner and don't need front weights.

All depends whose in the seat.
Your spraying some steep stuff I'd imagine.
Let's face it there's plenty of Bateman's and other self propelled sprayers been on three wheels in the wrong hands.

 

[Clive]

What kind of money are they? Have heard around £120k on farm with a high spec and steer ready?

similar money to a Fendt 724 or JD 6210R etc

I would be looking for something used after next harvest

 

[Thomas Simpson]

Ours is only 6 months old so not sure on reliabilty but so far its brillant to drive and seems to pull well with plenty of grip. Its on 600 axiobibs and i would pick it over a fendt or jd anyday to use. Used it on fert spreader and its a perfect match up, been on 6f kv and press and pulled well on some sticky going but soil isnt heavy. On the road its in a different league to anything else its excellent. The only issue is the tyres and setting them to the correct pressures for the right job.It would make an excellent trailed sprayer tractor with 4wheel steer, 63k, suspension and plenty of power. Just needs a better box which is isobus and gps ready and a bigger hydraulic pump.I am keen for a 2nd one when i can get rid of my newholland when its 5yr warranty runs out. Just the cost of them, but i do like the look of the new valtra though!

 

[Chae1]

is the spinner demount on platform ? weight wasn't the issue with the spinner it was the high COG that made it a handful

No. Never seen a fastrac with demount spreader on platform. Guess there's a reason for that.