42 leading figures from the UK farming industry have called for Britain to remain a member of the Eu

[Muck Spreader]

In the comment sections of national news papers the Brexit votes seem hugely higher than the remain.

Are the Remain people to shy to vote or what ?

Probably too busy working or getting on with life.

 

[farmer99]

Telegraph letter today for leaving David Handley,Charlie Flindt etc

 

[Chrisw]

Telegraph letter today for leaving David Handley,Charlie Flindt etc

Proper farmers then

 

[soilbug]

Proper farmers then

Well, not exactly "briefcase farmers" who spend their lives in 'important meetings' getting us all nowhere. Last I knew, Flindt has a rent to pay so that rules out hobby farming. Although I haven't met any of them I support their viewpoint. Handley speaks up because the NFU has rulled itself out from commenting on sensitive market prices and ruthless food processors which are killing us all.

Only those whose businesses have lost too much ground will have a job to exist long term on just the Farm Business Payment, which shouldn't be the taxpayer's responsibility.

We are seeing more and more businessmen declaring for "out" and mainly fat cat bosses and timid politicians wanting to remain shackled to the red taped dictatorial commissioners' regime.

Even New Zealand's population is clear it wants to keep the union symbol on it's flag. In contrast, our government seeks to show our loyalty to a fragile star on the EU flag and a continental economy which even Germany cannot prevent from collapse eventually. Is there really a secure future for such a disparate collection of states, even before it is blackmailed into admitting Turkey ? 'That's another fine mess you're getting me into, David!'

 

[JP1]

I'm for in and reform - which may be the long hand , long play intention anyway as Farage has been well and truly exposed as not the Country's leader. Brexit -> Boris PM -> secret EU restructuring deal before the Germans, Danes and Dutch face insurrection in their own countries

BUT when you see things like this and knowing the likes of Kinnock has been kicking the a@se out of it, you can see why folks get mad

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[An Gof]

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Tell me that's a typo. Baroness Kinnock with over £4m of allowances
What are they for?

 

[Sid]

• Sir Peter Kendall, former President, NFU

• Lord Plumb DL, former President, NFU, former President, European Parliament

• John Shropshire OBE, Chairman, G’s Fresh, European farmer and grower

• Rt. Hon. Sir Jim Paice, Farmer, former Minister for Agriculture and Food

• Glyn Roberts, President, Farmers’ Union of Wales

• Nigel Miller, former President, NFU Scotland, Farmer, Scottish Borders

• George Lyon, former President, NFU Scotland, former MEP, former Chief Whip and Deputy Finance Minister, Scottish Government

• Jilly Greed, co-founder, Ladies in Beef

• Adam Quinney, former Vice President, NFU, Beef and Sheep farmer, Warwickshire

• Sir Ian Grant, former President, NFU Scotland, former Chairman, The Crown Estate, former Deputy Chairman, NFU Mutual

• Rosey Dunn, North Carlton Farm, Chair, NFU North East Regional Board

• Di Wastenage, South West Dairy Farmer and Farmers Weekly Farmer of the Year 2015

• Harry Cotterell OBE, former President, Country Land and Business Association and farmer

• Caroline Knox, NFU County Chair, Isle of Wight

• Peter Chapman, former Vice President, NFU Scotland, former Councillor, Aberdeenshire

• Ross Goatham, NFU Chairman, Swale, Owner, AC Goatham and Son, Kent

• Simon Bainbridge, Owner, Bainbridge Farms, Northumberland

• Guy Poskitt, NFU Horticulture and Potatoes Board Chair, Yorkshire farmer, Farmers Weekly Farmer of Year 2012

• Andrew Blenkiron, NFU Chairman, East Cambs and West Suffolk, Estate Manager, East Anglia

• David Richardson OBE, Norfolk farmer, Columnist, Farmers Weekly

• Adrian Ivory, Farmers Weekly Young Farmer and Farmer of the Year 2008

• Greg Bliss, former Chairman, Tenant Farmers Association, Cambridgeshire farmer

• Matthew Naylor, Managing Director, Naylor Flowers Ltd.

• David Christensen, Oxfordshire dairy farmer and member of the Board of Representatives, Arla Foods

• James Hook, Managing Director, P.D. Hook Group, Oxfordshire

• Aled Griffiths, J A & O Griffiths & Sons, Shropshire

• Ian Pigott, Chairman, Farming and Countryside Education (FACE), Hertfordshire arable farmer

• Duncan Worth, CEO, AH Worth & Company Ltd, Chairman, QV Foods Ltd.

• Tom Green, Chief Executive, Spearhead International Ltd.

• Michael Sly, Chairman, English Mustard Growers Ltd.

• Sarah Dawson, former Chairman, NFU National Horticulture & Potato Board, Lincolnshire Vegetable Grower

• Ed Salt, Managing Director, Delamere Dairy, Cheshire

• Charlie Fillingham, Managing Director, Strutt & Parker Farms Ltd

• Stuart Roberts, former Chair, AHDB Beef and Lamb, Farmer, Hertfordshire

• Gwyn Jones, Chairman, European Platform for Responsible Use of Medicines in Agriculture

• Carol Ford, Commercial Director, AC Goatham & Son

• Stephen James, President, NFU Cymru (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

• Minette Batters, Wiltshire farmer (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

• Mary Quicke MBE, Managing Director, Quickes Traditional Ltd, Devon (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

• Richard Butler, R.J. Butler and Son, Wiltshire (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

• Richard Lister, Arable and pig farmer, Yorkshire (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

• Richard Beldam, Arable farmer, Gloucestershire (SIGNED IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY)

Resurrecting an old thread,


I wonder how many now would still think it's better to be in than out?

I know I have changed my mind. Three plus years of fading and farting around hasn't helped my business.

 

[le bon paysan]

Resurrecting an old thread,


I wonder how many now would still think it's better to be in than out?

I know I have changed my mind. Three plus years of fading and farting around hasn't helped my business.

So you think that the shambles of Brexit is the EUs fault?
Nothing to do with TM and not getting the WA through.

 

[Chrisw]

So you think that the shambles of Brexit is the EUs fault?
Nothing to do with TM and not getting the WA through.

No, it's the eu's and remainers fault and their constant backroom dealing to block Brexit. At least its moving forward properly now!
And unless the EU smarten up their act and how they treat their members, the UK wont be the only one leaving!

 

[le bon paysan]

No, it's the eu's and remainers fault and their constant backroom dealing to block Brexit. At least its moving forward properly now!
And unless the EU smarten up their act and how they treat their members, the UK wont be the only one leaving!

You can blame the remainers in the commons, but the EU has been reactive. The EU kept saying tell us what you want and the shambles in the UK couldn't decide. Now at least ,with a commons majority, you can decide what you want and negotiate from there.

 

[Chrisw]

You can blame the remainders in the commons, but the EU has been reactive. The EU kept saying tell us what you want and the shambles in the UK couldn't decide. Now at least ,with a commons majority, you can decide what you want and negotiate from there.

Perhaps they should have been talking to the government and its officials, properly, instead of Blair, Clegg, grieve, sourbry, cable etc, and trying to scupper Brexit.
Pretty sure the withdrawal act has told the EU what we want, and the December election told the commons what the country wanted.
At least the UK hasn't been rioting for the last year, and now news of additional inward investment from Airbus, and most EU financial institutions, who are now opening offices in the UK! Just saying.

 

[le bon paysan]

Perhaps they should have been talking to the government and its officials, properly, instead of Blair, Clegg, grieve, sourbry, cable etc, and trying to scupper Brexit.
Pretty sure the withdrawal act has told the EU what we want, and the December election told the commons what the country wanted.
At least the UK hasn't been rioting for the last year, and now news of additional inward investment from Airbus, and most EU financial institutions, who are now opening offices in the UK! Just saying.

Well that's the thing, the WA does not tell the EU anything apart from we are off. You ain't seen nothing yet , the WA was an aperitif to the meal that the trade negotiations will be

 

[Chrisw]

Well that's the thing, the WA does not tell the EU anything apart from we are off. You ain't seen nothing yet , the WA was an aperitif to the meal that the trade negotiations will be

And as the EU forbid talking trade and future relations until we leave, how do you propose negotiating while a member??
Trade talks will be just fine, either theres a mutually agreeable deal, or we go wto. No extensions, no exceptions, either the EU will talk in good faith and properly, or we will leave under wto terms. Kind of up to the EU now, whether they want to be obstinate or not. Good chance the UK will agree a trade deal with our single biggest trade partner, before we do one with the EU

 

[le bon paysan]

And as the EU forbid talking trade and future relations until we leave, how do you propose negotiating while a member??
Trade talks will be just fine, either theres a mutually agreeable deal, or we go wto. No extensions, no exceptions, either the EU will talk in good faith and properly, or we will leave under wto terms. Kind of up to the EU now, whether they want to be obstinate or not. Good chance the UK will agree a trade deal with our single biggest trade partner, before we do one with the EU

The EU has repeatedly asked what do you want and the UK just says cake and eat it. If you think Boris is the answer, I'd love to know the question.

 

[Chrisw]

The EU has repeatedly asked what do you want and the UK just says cake and eat it. If you think Boris is the answer, I'd love to know the question.

I fail to see what difference the UK leaving the EU makes to you. I'm guessing you didnt have a vote in the referendum??
There are always some who just cant accept the choice of the majority, even when it's actually none of their business... but hey ho !

 

[le bon paysan]

I fail to see what difference the UK leaving the EU makes to you. I'm guessing you didnt have a vote in the referendum??
There are always some who just cant accept the choice of the majority, even when it's actually none of their business... but hey ho !

Voted in the referendum.
Am now in the situation of taxation with no representation.
If you fail to see what difference it makes to British citizens living in the EU, then you should try a better class of paper than the Star.

 

[Chrisw]

Voted in the referendum.
Am now in the situation of taxation with no representation.
If you fail to see what difference it makes to British citizens living in the EU, then you should try a better class of paper than the Star.

Star!! ??? yeh right!
The EU had better reciprocate the UK's offer on EU nationals rights then. So far they have refused, have they not?
You have the choice to leave the EU if YOU are not happy with YOUR situation, but your opinion doesn't trump the majority who are sick and tired of the EU!

 

[le bon paysan]

Star!! ??? yeh right!
The EU had better reciprocate the UK's offer on EU nationals rights then. So far they have refused, have they not?
You have the choice to leave the EU if YOU are not happy with YOUR situation, but your opinion doesn't trump the majority who are sick and tired of the EU!

No ,fake news
The EU had offered the UK an agreement on citizens rights , as a stand alone reciprocal agreement, at the start when the UK enacted Article 50. It was Teresa May that refused and said nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.
You only have to look how the UK is treating people , worked 25 Years in the NHS and refused settled status , to see who is trying to use people as bargaining chips.

 

[Chrisw]

No ,fake news
The EU had offered the UK an agreement on citizens rights , as a stand alone reciprocal agreement, at the start when the UK enacted Article 50. It was Teresa May that refused and said nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.
You only have to look how the UK is treating people , worked 25 Years in the NHS and refused settled status , to see who is trying to use people as bargaining chips.

Whatever! May was useless, and never wanted to leave. Old news, shes nothing to do with it now, boris and his team are the ones negotiating now, and so far, they are delivering.
Seems you have some hate towards the UK, but frankly, you can keep that to yourself.
The EU has never agreed to reciprocal rights on citizens.
You either love the EU, in which case stay there, or you are not happy and you leave, but FFS..... stop crying about it!
Night.

 

[le bon paysan]

Whatever! May was useless, and never wanted to leave. Old news, shes nothing to do with it now, boris and his team are the ones negotiating now, and so far, they are delivering.
Seems you have some hate towards the UK, but frankly, you can keep that to yourself.
The EU has never agreed to reciprocal rights on citizens.
You either love the EU, in which case stay there, or you are not happy and you leave, but FFS..... stop crying about it!
Night.

Pathetic. Try to understand what's going on , The EU offered reciprocity, the UK government of the day turned it down.
The EU were guaranteeing pension rights and health care , the UK refused this. These rights are now only guaranteed until the end of the WA. While this effects me in a small way its effect on others is major. If I were you I would be a bit more concerned at the way British citizens are treated by the UK government. It may be your turn next.