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Who cares it ain't going to happen anyway!
500m gov scheme to buy fat livestock
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who asked for their opinion ?
gone up the hill
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Yet another typical remainer you are neilo, all you lot do when you dont have a credible argument to a discussion is hurl insults at anyone that voted leave and you wrongly think this will help your argument, the more you try and belittle/ slag off leavers all that happens is more and more remainers that were on the fence decide to back leave.
gone up the hill
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Did you really write that?
No one be that remain or leave supporters should have based their vote on one issue because there are thousands of things that are effected by our membership of the EU! things for example an EU army/ unregulated immigration ( see the mess in Germany from that ).
When you vote you need to weigh up all the issues that matter for you and vote accordingly and suffice to say the majority of farmers saw the bigger picture and did this and voted to leave the EU.
If life is so great in the EU then why is the UK beef industry currently on its knees yet the EU wont give us any extra support to ride out low prices yet are chucking millions of Euros to the the Irish beef sector because of their so called low prices even thou the Irish beef price is much better than the UK beef price!
And what about that Monsecur trade deal the EU signed the other week, they are selling the EU beef industry down the road in return for Germany to be able to export their cars to places like Brazil!
Just a shame that remainers choose to ignore the facts about EU membership!
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But what i do see is a import duty rising on lambs coming into the UK, this will surly make our lambs worth more money, or maybe i am just an optimist.Indeed, but I have no reason to disbelieve this particular source.
Don’t tell me you’re on of those that believe the lamb price will go up by 22% in the event of ‘no-deal’? I’ve only seen one person come up with that figure.
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Your sentence makes no sense as written. Sorry.
It is a frequent refrain of the Leave contingent when challenged on detail or complications post Referendum that none of those complications were on the ballot paper and it clearly just said Leave or Remain. You are in a newly found zone when you now state that there were many issues to be weighed in coming to a vote decision.
gone up the hill
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Perhaps you need to actually read posts before saying they dont make sense!
Before the vote we were if we voted to leave that meant no membership of the Customs union for example!
UTTER NONSENSE for remianers to say that leavers didnt know what they were voting for and you know it!
But did you as a remainer actually know what you were voting for JP1?? for example did you know three years ago that the EU were going to sign the monsecur agreement and sell the EU beef industry down the river? what about the forthcoming EU army? both Germany/ France have been in detailed talks the last 12/18 months about creating one! Then what about Turkey joining the EU. remainers said three years ago this would never happen yet a few months after the vote it came out that talks were at a detailed stage between the EU/ Turkey on Turkeys membership of the EU! thou of course you knew all this when you voted....................
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Stop. Read your own words that I highlighted in bold. Don't do your usual Foghorn Leghorn and shoot from the hip.
Read your own words. One paragraph, as you wrote it. Now think for a second and actually come back on here and tell me it makes sense.
Now when you've done that, I will reply to your other points in another post so you don't go Off Piste
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It's Mercosur for a start
Leave won, so the rest of the long paragraph is irrelevant. My original comments were based on what you wrote
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gone up the hill
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Judging by the number of folks liking my post, I would venture to suggest you may be in the minority in your belief. In fact I would venture to to suggest that from Tim Martin upwards, one of the central planks of the Leave argument (then and now) is that the Referendum was a single issue and should not be diluted with side considerations
And please spare me the Remain / Remoaner tag as I for one am accepting of the vote result whilst delighting in how this Leave farce is spinning faster than a rapala on the fastest stretches of the Doune
gone up the hill
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If it wasnt for remainers like yourself having spent the last three years trying to overturn the leave vote the UK would NOT now be in the mess it currently is.
If you and the rest of remainers had got behind leave and worked with leavers to get a trading deal ( and a general deal for leaving also ) with the EU that worked for both sides we would now not have all this uncertainty about what is going to happen in a few weeks time!
If we leave under WTO rules in Oct then it will certainly be the fault of remainers!
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You can't help yourself can you. How can it be that "a Remainer like me" stopped anything. Have I voted again, no. Was I involved in the negotiations, no (I thought it was David Davis and then Dominic Raab and I think they'd get very excitable if they were tagged as Remoaners).
I've said whilst I don't agree with the result , I have to accept the result.
I have every right to worry with the idiots driving the bus that I'm on however.
Funnily enough (if you are indeed referring to the various HoC votes as it's not always clear in your posts or your thinking) I do believe the voting record is as much down to the ERG wing believing they could get a different deal and voting things down as the terrible (your view) Remain MPs who are at least sticking to their principles
Where are your Leave ambitions compared with what Tusk offered right at the outset before Blighty even came out to bat?
I knew what GUTH meant but its very typical who picked up on it and even more typical who liked said persons posts
this is a farming forum not a forum for perfect English if that's what you want I am sure there are forums for that
@JP1 Have you seen the number of English mistakes that even I can see in @Clive 's posts ? funny how I have never seen you pick up on them
this is a farming forum not a forum for perfect English if that's what you want I am sure there are forums for that
@JP1 Have you seen the number of English mistakes that even I can see in @Clive 's posts ? funny how I have never seen you pick up on them
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Some of the reason for the beef industry’s current plight, is the stockpiling of beef, prior to our planned exit date at the end of March. Some of that has been coming back out, although the stores will be likely filling up again after the recent changing of the guard. That’s not the fault of EU membership, but of the way Brexit has been handled/dragged out.
That turmoil has come, at the same time as red meat consumption has been painted as the bad guy of climate change, which will have reduced demand, if only by a small amount, and hopefully temporarily.
I would agree that the Mercosur is a hammer blow for the beef industry, but it’s no different to the trade deals the UK will be doing, not least the much trumpeted US deal. Agriculture is just a pawn to our governments, which will be sold down the river to allow access to markets for cars, wine, financial services, etc. Make no mistake, post Brexit, our lot will be beating a path to the South American trading bloc, as fast as they head to Washington. The aim is cheaper food prices for the electorate, not financial prosperity for our ag industry.
gone up the hill
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On the HOC voting, the deal remainer MAY and that remainer Robbins agreed and signed is so badly worded and in the EU's favour that any sane MP regardless of being a remainer or leaver should not have voted for it.
May was offered a trade deal by the EU and turned it down because it would mean we would not be as closely aligned with the EU as she wanted us to be!
Very clear that remainers have done everything possible to make leaving the EU as difficult and hard as possible.
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If you knew, can you write an explanation?
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