5g

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Anyone on it yet ? Was offered a EE upgrade yesterday when sorting my SIM problem

Apparently we have coverage

Worth it ?
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
With a range of 500m I can’t see it’s going to be a benefit to uk ag especially seeing as 3G isn’t reliable yet in many places.

It’s only going to be good for crunching data offsite, processing automation, processing images for identification using offsite hardware sort of thing. Not good when the automatic tractor gets behind a tree and shuts down!!

Are there any other uses in ag for this technology?
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
With a range of 500m I can’t see it’s going to be a benefit to uk ag especially seeing as 3G isn’t reliable yet in many places.

It’s only going to be good for crunching data offsite, processing automation, processing images for identification using offsite hardware sort of thing. Not good when the automatic tractor gets behind a tree and shuts down!!

Are there any other uses in ag for this technology?
Only 500m range....that’s very short indeed! No wonder the Comms code is forcing landowners to accept peanut rents in exchange for mast locations. As said, I can’t see it making it to many rural areas on that basis.
 
Only 500m range....that’s very short indeed! No wonder the Comms code is forcing landowners to accept peanut rents in exchange for mast locations.n that basis.
5G hype is off the charts and is distracting attention away from necessary work to get decent broadband speeds to exiting rural areas. The fibre roll out in Wales has been a monumental cockup and financial scandal that is not being investigated. some details on this here


As for 5G even with mesh topologies and the beam forming characteristics of smart antennas, 5G requires considerably more antennas and higher deployment costs than traditional mobile networks. Rather than tall towers with antennas that can cover thousands of households, 5G will likely be installed on light poles in neighbourhoods to cover a dozen or so households. Network operators will need right-of-way agreements within urban areas, but with space on poles limited, there will likely be less competition, not more. Don’t expect wide deployment of 5G any time soon, especially in sparsely populated rural environments.

Ericsson addressed coverage of 5G fixed wireless access using different spectrum bands and cell site placements in this white paper last year
 
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Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
Anyone on it yet ? Was offered a EE upgrade yesterday when sorting my SIM problem

Apparently we have coverage

Worth it ?
Is it 5G or 5G though? I ask this because what is being called 5G by some is not the actual 'internet of everything 5G operating at a similar frequency to microwave ovens and about which there is much justifiable concern. Is big tech trying to pull a fast one by muddying the waters and slipping the far more harmful version in under the radar at a later date, referring to it as a mere 'upgrade' or some such lie? I wouldn't put it past them.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Many unanswered questions on 5G particularly on the potential health issues. Also with the much shorter wavelengths there need to be many more antennae as the range is much shorter.

The questions are being answered alright, but not to the liking of the money men and big tech generally.
 
Not sure about 5G . I had a tech. advisor on the phone re a bit of a router fault . When he'd finished , my router had a 5g tag to it . when I asked him about this , he said "Ah yes , It's not the same 5g as a phone 5g (?)
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Not sure about 5G . I had a tech. advisor on the phone re a bit of a router fault . When he'd finished , my router had a 5g tag to it . when I asked him about this , he said "Ah yes , It's not the same 5g as a phone 5g (?)
We had something similar when switching broadband providers, what the feck is going on?
 
Well, whatever it is , it isn't "5th generation " as in phone services . My router usually shows up as "Fritzbox" but just occasionally and apparently random "Fritzbox 5G" and doesn't make a lot of difference that I can see .
 
Not sure about 5G . I had a tech. advisor on the phone re a bit of a router fault . When he'd finished , my router had a 5g tag to it . when I asked him about this , he said "Ah yes , It's not the same 5g as a phone 5g (?)
They refer to two completely different things.

'5G' is fifth-generation mobile services (types of frequency used on mobile phone masts for faster mobile data on phones etc.)

'5Ghz' (on routers) is a different band/frequency used by broadband routers to create wi-fi. Old routers used the 2.4Ghz frequency however that can be affected by interference from other in-home wireless devices so new routers now have a 5Ghz for less interference and faster throughput (only between your wifi device and the wifi router- not the overall broadband speed)
 
We have a WiFi link between 2 buildings. The second unit provides wifi coverage to the yard
Just got 300 mps broadband in & the 2.4mhz units are rated at 10 /100.
Upgraded to 5mhz units which are 10/100/1000 so can deal with the faster speed.
Almost no speed drop at computer at other end over the link, however noticed that the wifi signal in the yard was not as good.
When I enquired it seems 5mhz wifi is not as good at penetrating buildings & other obstacles So have put the 2.4mhz unit back in place alongside the new one
Isn`t progress great :scratchhead:
 
We have a WiFi link between 2 buildings. The second unit provides wifi coverage to the yard
Just got 300 mps broadband in & the 2.4mhz units are rated at 10 /100.
Upgraded to 5mhz units which are 10/100/1000 so can deal with the faster speed.
Almost no speed drop at computer at other end over the link, however noticed that the wifi signal in the yard was not as good.
When I enquired it seems 5mhz wifi is not as good at penetrating buildings & other obstacles
Isn`t progress great :scratchhead:
Just basic physics.

Shorter wavelengths at 5GHz have the capability to carry more data than at 2.4 GHz however they don’t ‘carry’ as far as 2.4 GHz.

Similar story to telecoms “5G” and existing 4G and LTE which operate at longer wavelengths.
 
I know, but they make out 5GHZ is the dog`s bo***cks , when in fact it has it`s weaknesses
The main limitation is not as good range as 2.4 GHz

For the vast majority of ordinary folks living in a normal “two up, two down”, or a flat etc it’s completely fine and the benefits (more throughout, less interference with neighbours) outweigh the minor penalty in range.

Properly designed 5GHz WiFi mesh networks, can pretty much make any range differences disappear and you have a far more robust network as a result.
 

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