5th wheel pickup and trailer

[smcapstick]

I doubt it, lorries are designed to run at that weight all day every day.

Lorries may be designed to run at that weight all day but the problem with a 7.5 ton lorry is the low payload you just can't carry enough

That and they are useless for anything else. Drop the trailer off and you have a full speed pickup again with only one vehicle to tax, test and insure. No need for inspections or your heavy goods, either.

 

[joe soapy]

One of the IW DP trailers looks as if it was designed to have a goose neck bolted on.
the standard drawbar is just riveted on.. The big problem is the electric brakes, Which although safe enough for use in America are tooo dangerous for UK

 

[S J H]

That and they are useless for anything else. Drop the trailer off and you have a full speed pickup again with only one vehicle to tax, test and insure. No need for inspections or your heavy goods, either.

I think you'll need a defender to take the weight though @smcapstick

When I looked before the weight would have been 4.5t they seem to be a very good idea, but you lose most of your rear deck so no good for me.

Bateson used to have a photo of a livestock one on their website, but I can't find it now.

 

[smcapstick]

I think you'll need a defender to take the weight though @smcapstick

When I looked before the weight would have been 4.5t they seem to be a very good idea, but you lose most of your rear deck so no good for me.

Bateson used to have a photo of a livestock one on their website, but I can't find it now.

Next to no space is taken in the bed with a ball and socket coupling, so plenty of room for straps, woods etc.

 

[Dukes Fit]

Granted a

That and they are useless for anything else. Drop the trailer off and you have a full speed pickup again with only one vehicle to tax, test and insure. No need for inspections or your heavy goods, either.

I agree, 7.5 tonners aren't much cop unless you have use for one but to run a pick up and 5th wheel combo to replace one would I imagine be even more costly.

I wish I'd taken some pics of the stand as they had a Hilux and a Defender 110 crew cab both with 5th wheel fitted. The towing gear also pins on to mountings so can be quickly removed when not towing, or on the other side, quickly installed when required.

 

[S J H]

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Next to no space is taken in the bed with a ball and socket coupling, so plenty of room for straps, woods etc.

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Next to no space is taken in the bed with a ball and socket coupling, so plenty of room for straps, woods etc.

You know that elbow room is well overrated.

That sounds good have you got a link?

 

[roscoe erf]

7.5 tonners are plentiful and cheap as much as i would love a multipurpose vehicle it very rarely works out viable jack of all trades master of none springs to mind the cost of buying one against a 7.5t is going to be the biggest pill to swallow then the payloads are not going to be that different running costs the same
for caravans its great but haulage no other wise the roads would be full of them

where do people keep getting poor payloads from on 7.5t with the right chassis and body you can get a 4t payload quite easily

even with a trailer you are going to have the same legal issues as with a 7.5t truck

 

[mushnt grummmble]

7.5 tonners are plentiful and cheap as much as i would love a multipurpose vehicle it very rarely works out viable jack of all trades master of none springs to mind the cost of buying one against a 7.5t is going to be the biggest pill to swallow then the payloads are not going to be that different running costs the same
for caravans its great but haulage no other wise the roads would be full of them

where do people keep getting poor payloads from on 7.5t with the right chassis and body you can get a 4t payload quite easily

even with a trailer you are going to have the same legal issues as with a 7.5t truck

i have category c1+e on my licence

Category C1+E
You can drive C1 category vehicles with a trailer over 750kg, but the trailer - when fully loaded - can’t weigh more than the vehicle.

The combined weight of both can’t exceed 12,000kg.

so i can have a 7.5 tonner and trailer towing the same weight?

 

[roscoe erf]

You know that elbows are well overrated.

That sounds good have you got a link?

 

[smcapstick]

You know that elbow room is well overrated.

That sounds good have you got a link?

Neat, isn't it?

7.5 tonners are plentiful and cheap as much as i would love a multipurpose vehicle it very rarely works out viable jack of all trades master of none springs to mind the cost of buying one against a 7.5t is going to be the biggest pill to swallow then the payloads are not going to be that different running costs the same
for caravans its great but haulage no other wise the roads would be full of them

where do people keep getting poor payloads from on 7.5t with the right chassis and body you can get a 4t payload quite easily

even with a trailer you are going to have the same legal issues as with a 7.5t truck

Piffle! No HGV ticket, no O license, no 13 week checks, no 56mph limiter.

 

[roscoe erf]

Neat, isn't it?
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Piffle! No HGV ticket, no O license, no 13 week checks, no 56mph limiter.

carry on

 

[smcapstick]

i have category c1+e on my licence
so i can have a 7.5 tonner and trailer towing the same weight?

As long as they are not both grossed as that would come to 15t.

 

[S J H]

Neat, isn't it?
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Piffle! No HGV ticket, no O license, no 13 week checks, no 56mph limiter.

That does look good, the ones I've seen have a frame over the top of the deck.

 

[smcapstick]

That does look good, the ones I've seen have a frame over the top of the deck.

Like this one, a 'proper' 5th wheel.

 

[Dave W]

Neat, isn't it?
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Piffle! No HGV ticket, no O license, no 13 week checks, no 56mph limiter.

That is proper smart.
Get one bought and let me trial it for 12 months for you.

Wouldn't be surprised to find there is some rule that says you can't carry anything in the tub ie ratchet straps etc

 

[Speedstar]

Saw one a few weeks ago in the States with a 3 axle trailer behind it with 40 4ft by 5ft bales of hay on it , but it was a twin wheeled pick with a 9lts power max cummins motor in it , about the 350hp mark

 

[multi power]

7.5 tonners are plentiful and cheap as much as i would love a multipurpose vehicle it very rarely works out viable jack of all trades master of none springs to mind the cost of buying one against a 7.5t is going to be the biggest pill to swallow then the payloads are not going to be that different running costs the same
for caravans its great but haulage no other wise the roads would be full of them

where do people keep getting poor payloads from on 7.5t with the right chassis and body you can get a 4t payload quite easily

even with a trailer you are going to have the same legal issues as with a 7.5t truck

I'm assuming you have never been to Canada? There must be hundreds of thousand pickups with fifth wheel trailers

 

[smcapstick]

Saw one a few weeks ago in the States with a 3 axle trailer behind it with 40 4ft by 5ft bales of hay on it , but it was a twin wheeled pick with a 9lts power max cummins motor in it , about the 350hp mark

I would dearly love to have a pickup with a 'real' engine.

The problem is, they're all American and having an American pickup in Britain proves you have a tiny, tiny little penis. They're so vulgar, too. The other option is to engine-swap... but only people that rummage through bins do that.

 

[roscoe erf]

I'm assuming you have never been to Canada? There must be hundreds of thousand pickups with fifth wheel trailers

last time i looked we were in the uk

 

[smcapstick]

The extra length of a 22' flat for me would be swallowed up by the fact you could turn much, much tighter - maybe 120 degrees? Fab!