65 Mk 2 and 165

timff

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Hi all. Just seen a 1967 Massey 165 (exhaust on left) and wondered what differences it has to the 65 Mk 2. Can anyone tell me?
 

agrimax

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Square mudguards,bonnet and dashboard,different steering wheel,probably a foot throttle and proper handbrake lever.Can't think of much else...........
 

Mursal

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And steering drag link to the front also different, no foot throttle until much later. 165 had drilling for power steering option also has a diff lock, not sure about the 65?

Has the 65 a double quadrant levers for the hydraulics or just one round one?
 
And steering drag link to the front also different, no foot throttle until much later. 165 had drilling for power steering option also has a diff lock, not sure about the 65?

Has the 65 a double quadrant levers for the hydraulics or just one round one?[/QUOTEmk1 & mk2 65s had diff lock and power steering options
Not to sure about hydraulic difference...... probably the additional feature of pressure control on the 165 beingthe only difference
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
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And steering drag link to the front also different, no foot throttle until much later. 165 had drilling for power steering option also has a diff lock, not sure about the 65?

Has the 65 a double quadrant levers for the hydraulics or just one round one?
I think the front casting is different and most of the steering system, you could get power steering for a 65 and they had diff lock
two hydraulic leavers on a 65
 

timff

Member
Double quadrant....although I used uncles 135 for lots of loader work back in the 80s I never knew what the double quadrant was all about (I’m a Ford man). Which lever does what?
 

agrimax

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Location
Co Down
Both 65s and early 165s had the steering drag link mounted up higher than the later 212 engined 165s. 65s had a big pedestal in the tombstone connected to a few links.French built, manual steering 165s also had this.
On the 65,the draft lever is nearest the mudguard,and the position lever nearest the seat.Push it forward for down,back for up and full forward for response speed.On the 165,draft lever is the same but position lever is pushed back for down,forward for up,transport,and constant pumping and further forward into pressure control. To work the draft lever,the position lever should be set at transport and for height control on the position lever ,the draft lever should be full back. As clear as mud............:scratchhead::)
 

Mursal

Member
Some of the 210 engine 165's (left exhaust) has the later 165 drag links, so they must have changed mid production from the 65 type to the later 165 type.
They could certainly complicate the simplest of tasks, hydraulic linkage control, "we'll just add another lever"
Gearbox on the later models "we'll just add another lever" and by all accounts they were the best gearbox "ever"
 

agrimax

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Location
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Yes,an exceptionally durable gearbox...........unlike the power steering system that had so many moving parts and had to have a certain amount of free play for it to work properly.........Who ever came up with that nonsense??:wacky:
 

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