750A spoked gauge wheels

[Bob lincs]

First set in the UK ??? And yes they are John Deere not Mudsmith .

 

[Fuzzy]

What is the advantage of a spoked wheel?

 

[Bob lincs]

What is the advantage of a spoked wheel?

They don't get full of soil in sticky condition and stop going round .

 

[Feldspar]

They don't get full of soil in sticky condition and stop going round .

Why they can't spec these out of the factory is beyond me. How much to refit a 6m? Look good though.

 

[RTK Farmer]

Part number?

 

[Bob lincs]

They don't offer them for the uk , i got hold of the part number put an order in and they arrived 4 days later from the states . They are £30 each more than a standard set so not cheap . My standard wheels (plastic/steel) won't hold the bearing tight so they wobble and let the soil in so they block up .

 

[Bob lincs]

Part number?

AA86055

 

[Bob lincs]

I've got a couple of spares if anyone wants to look at them .

 

[Simon Chiles]

They don't offer them for the uk , i got hold of the part number put an order in and they arrived 4 days later from the states . They are £30 each more than a standard set so not cheap . My standard wheels (plastic/steel) won't hold the bearing tight so they wobble and let the soil in so they block up .

I'm really sorry to have to tell you that the solution to the problem of holding the bearing tight is a 40mm od, 24mm id and 2mm thick washer clamped between the bearing and the rim. Removes all play and infinitely cheaper. Having said that I do like the look of those wheels, the bearing is retained by a circlip, and should keep the drill going in really adverse conditions. Whether you'd want to do that to your soil is another matter.

 

[Bob lincs]

I'm really sorry to have to tell you that the solution to the problem of holding the bearing tight is a 40mm od, 24mm id and 2mm thick washer clamped between the bearing and the rim. Removes all play and infinitely cheaper. Having said that I do like the look of those wheels, the bearing is retained by a circlip, and should keep the drill going in really adverse conditions. Whether you'd want to do that to your soil is another matter.

I did try packing the bearings out as you describe on a couple of wheels but they went loose again quite quickly , strangely there seems to be more play in the metal side that the plastic side . The hubs on these new wheels are cast and as you pointed out held in with a circlip so none of that fighting to get the two halves together and the holes lined up .only about half of our drilling is DD and some land we are asked to wait later and later in the season because of blackgrass problems so I need my drill to be able to work in somtimes less than ideal conditions .

 

[Simon Chiles]

I did try packing the bearings out as you describe on a couple of wheels but they went loose again quite quickly , strangely there seems to be more play in the metal side that the plastic side . The hubs on these new wheels are cast and as you pointed out held in with a circlip so none of that fighting to get the two halves together and the holes lined up .only about half of our drilling is DD and some land we are asked to wait later and later in the season because of blackgrass problems so I need my drill to be able to work in somtimes less than ideal conditions .

Which side did you put the washer in? I've put them in on the plastic side which seems so far to have cured the problem. As you say it's the metal side that gets the wear and it used to be a problem when both halves of the rim were metal as well. The washer cured it then.
If I was going to replace the gauge wheels then I would change to the spoked ones as you have done.

 

[Bob lincs]

Which side did you put the washer in? I've put them in on the plastic side which seems so far to have cured the problem. As you say it's the metal side that gets the wear and it used to be a problem when both halves of the rim were metal as well. The washer cured it then.
If I was going to replace the gauge wheels then I would change to the spoked ones as you have done.

I tried both sides and it made no difference . I think some of my problem comes from taking out to many shims 2 years ago thinking the tighter the tyre on the disc the better it would clean the soil off , It did work but I think put to much pressure on the wheel centre .

 

[SilliamWhale]

Why are they hollow dished in the first place? Would a solid wheel or blocking off the dish make a difference?

 

[Bob lincs]

Why are they hollow dished in the first place? Would a solid wheel or blocking off the dish make a difference?

You couldn't block off the side next to the disc because of the arm the wheel mounts onto .

 

[nickf]

I was quoted £95.91 each in October for these new wheels.

Haven't bought any yet. My drill needs a bit of attention this winter with bearings, bushings, new discs etc... Not sure whether to go ahead and do all the work or sell it and get the new Weaving GD which I saw yesterday and looks a good tool.

Sumo DD coming tomorrow to try, with this rain will be a proper test for it!

 

[Bob lincs]

 

[Bob lincs]

I took my drill out today on a really wet 10acre field purposely to try and block up the new wheels , I drilled the whole field ( some parts were pretty awful ) I didn't have a single blocked wheel they didn't even get close to stopping . The arm that holds the wheel now acts as a scraper instead of a brake , any build up of soil on the wheel is simply knocked off and falls out though the spokes . The field I drilled was probably to wet to be on but it proved a point these wheels DO defiantly work . Come on John Deere get them on the options list for a 750a .... And guttlers , narrow press wheels , fertiliser placement kit , row cleaners etc etc before the competitors really leave you behind .

 

[Clive]

They look good but I can't help feel if it's wet enough to need them the drill should probably be in the shed not the field

 

[SilliamWhale]

Not too fussed on narrow press wheels personally. Could compact side wall more

 

[Bob lincs]

They look good but I can't help feel if it's wet enough to need them the drill should probably be in the shed not the field

I do agree but sometimes we do have to wait until later in the drilling season ( black grass ) so we need to be able to drill in wetter conditions .