8t Plus spring barley fertilizer program

[willy]

well I am going to try and push my s barley yield this year after reading various threads....I no longer Want to feel inadequate anymore. My 6-7 tonnes is going to have to pull out all the stops.

So I have some going in after sewage sludge 2nd cereal which was going to receive 60kgs of n in the seed bed along with the 20 from sewage sludge so total approx 80kgs,. So next step is how much when it's up to max out yield without flattening the crop.? Would normally aim for approx 130kgs in total.

Also was going to experiment with seed rates ( loads of home saved seed) planet and propino are both going in with 60 ha of each variety.

So how do you big yielders approach seed rates opt for higher seed rates?....I was going to try some on heavier dirt at 500s/m2 with a 60-70% establishment I.e. 300plants/m2 (direct drilled). Should I go much higher and aim for 400 plants or am I going to end up with chicken feed. I like higher seed rates as I feel it dilutes the n, but that's probably just in my mind.

 

[7610 super q]

I watch with interest. And with calculator in hand to convert Ha into acres, Kg into CWT, M to feet......

Edit.... I assume we're aiming for 8t / ha, rather than 8t / acre......

 

[Mr Charisma]

My high yielding field last year happened to be a first cereal , it's wasn't planned that way but by the time the linseed came off and then it was limed we then had to wait for the sludge spreaders ,,,,,,, they turned up and we managed to get it triod with the ground in good condition but that night the weather broke ,,,,,, I was determined not to botch a winter wheat crop in ,,,,,, doesn't usually pay on red marl ,,,,,,, eventually gave up on the wheat and headed down the spring barley route ,
Planted 225 kg / ha of planet through a vaderstad rapid
As for fert it had 120 units split over 3 doses , first on top of the drilling before it germinated ,
Spray wise of the top of my head it had adjust and 2 doses of jaunt along with a ally type su and that was it

Yield meter on combine was checked on a neighbours crop of spring barley the day before ,,,,, combine said 59,7 tons , Lethbridge of local store where it went to said 60,05 tons ,,,,,,, I thought that was pretty impressive to be honest ,,,,,,,, any way whilst cutting the high yielding field it was not unusual to see yield meter running at 11 to 12 tons per ha for a good part of the field but as always with yield meters by the time the odd rooked area is taken into account it brings the yield back , but hey ho , still a red letter day for us

 

[willy]

My high yielding field last year happened to be a first cereal , it's wasn't planned that way but by the time the linseed came off and then it was limed we then had to wait for the sludge spreaders ,,,,,,, they turned up and we managed to get it triod with the ground in good condition but that night the weather broke ,,,,,, I was determined not to botch a winter wheat crop in ,,,,,, doesn't usually pay on red marl ,,,,,,, eventually gave up on the wheat and headed down the spring barley route ,
As for fert it had 120 units split over 3 doses , first on top of the drilling before it germinated ,
Spray wise of the top of my head it had adjust and 2 doses of jaunt along with a ally type su and that was it

Yield meter on combine was checked on a neighbours crop of spring barley the day before ,,,,, combine said 59,7 tons , Lethbridge of local store where it went to said 60,05 tons ,,,,,,, I thought that was pretty impressive to be honest ,,,,,,,, any way whilst cutting the high yielding field it was not unusual to see yield meter running at 11 to 12 tons per ha for a good part of the field but as always with yield meters by the time the odd rooked area is taken into account it brings the yield back , but hey ho , still a red letter day for us

What seed rates did you use? Also which variety. Did it make malting?

 

[Mr Charisma]

What seed rates d






What seed rates did you use? Also which variety. Did it make malting?

Just edited that info in ,,,,,, no it didn't make malting ,,,,,, we tend to use our own barley any way

 

[Steevo]

You're only aiming for 8t? How embarrassing....!

 

[willy]

Do you think the sewage sludge made the difference?

 

[Rob Holmes]

I've been thinking about this too and just wondering:

• 200 kg/ha seed
• 100% of urea in seed bed (130-150 kg N/Ha)
• 75 kg SO3 in seedbed
• Full rate PGR
• Variable rate P+K

Work or not?

 

[Brisel]

Do you think the sewage sludge made the difference?

Of course no one is applying sewage before a malting crop...

 

[SilliamWhale]

If you want to improve yields why not have an article in the Farmers Weekly?

But I think the biggest gains for me, apart from my own brilliance have been N in seedbed and just need enough sun at the right time which we seem to be getting less of down here. I don't think seed rate, nitrogen etc. make as much difference as sun and early N.

 

[RAF]

Got some old pasture ground never really be farmed , was wondering weather to hammer it with sheep , lime it spread probably 50 tons to acre of pig muck then slurry , let it dry subdisc, power harrow combo and go from there .
Or would you say roundup muck and plough ?

 

[Hindsight]

Got some old pasture ground never really be farmed , was wondering weather to hammer it with sheep , lime it spread probably 50 tons to acre of pig muck then slurry , let it dry subdisc, power harrow combo and go from there .
Or would you say roundup muck and plough ?

Would you consider grass pests such as Wireworm ? Austral Plus see dressing ?

 

[RAF]

Yes will dress seed for wire worm , it will be ok grow after pp ?

 

[DRC]

Got some old pasture ground never really be farmed , was wondering weather to hammer it with sheep , lime it spread probably 50 tons to acre of pig muck then slurry , let it dry subdisc, power harrow combo and go from there .
Or would you say roundup muck and plough ?

50 tons to the acre. Your not in NVZ then

 

[whitefox]

My high yielding field last year happened to be a first cereal , it's wasn't planned that way but by the time the linseed came off and then it was limed we then had to wait for the sludge spreaders ,,,,,,, they turned up and we managed to get it triod with the ground in good condition but that night the weather broke ,,,,,, I was determined not to botch a winter wheat crop in ,,,,,, doesn't usually pay on red marl ,,,,,,, eventually gave up on the wheat and headed down the spring barley route ,
Planted 225 kg / ha of planet through a vaderstad rapid
As for fert it had 120 units split over 3 doses , first on top of the drilling before it germinated ,
Spray wise of the top of my head it had adjust and 2 doses of jaunt along with a ally type su and that was it

Yield meter on combine was checked on a neighbours crop of spring barley the day before ,,,,, combine said 59,7 tons , Lethbridge of local store where it went to said 60,05 tons ,,,,,,, I thought that was pretty impressive to be honest ,,,,,,,, any way whilst cutting the high yielding field it was not unusual to see yield meter running at 11 to 12 tons per ha for a good part of the field but as always with yield meters by the time the odd rooked area is taken into account it brings the yield back , but hey ho , still a red letter day for us

well done you!.......only thing!? if that was off A 4ha ish field that's VERY impressive,but of a14ha field not so!?

 

[horizontal]

Did some split fields last year. 120, 150 and 180kg N on Irina as a second cereal. The 180 (at 7.1t) yielded less than 150 (7.9t) but more than the 120 (6.9t). Seed rate was 375 across the board.
The 180kg also twisted everywhere and lodged in places despite a Moddus and Terpal programme - hence why yield suffered.
I am minded to apply no more than 150kg, regardless of variety and what they say in the press - those pushing higher inputs seem to be the distribution trade, and I am not convinced it (always) pays. Our best return from SB has been a moderate input programme - and we have done 10t in the past with only 145kgN as a second cereal, but I would never budget more than 7.2t.

 

[DRC]

I've got a field going into spring barley that's been in HLs grass for 10 years. Just getting a soil test done and will go from there.
Should I plough it, or find someone local with no till drill.?

 

[RAF]

Well , u can't beat a good dose and got plenty of the stuff ,I think it should yield well but don't really want plough. Direct drill may be option, although I think they would struggle

 

[SilliamWhale]

I've got a field going into spring barley that's been in HLs grass for 10 years. Just getting a soil test done and will go from there.
Should I plough it, or find someone local with no till drill.?

Plough it. Its what you know

 

[bobk]

I've got a field going into spring barley that's been in HLs grass for 10 years. Just getting a soil test done and will go from there.
Should I plough it, or find someone local with no till drill.?

No till and buy a winch .