A bit like Foot and Mouth

[Pan mixer]

Being a senior on here, I have vivid memories of the whole situation in 2001 in the UK.

It seems to me that this virus scare is similar in some ways except that it now involves everyone not just those who keep livestock.

So far, I think that the management has been much better than the initial management of the F and M thing.

Anyone else wondering about the parallels?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Being a senior on here, I have vivid memories of the whole situation in 2001 in the UK.

It seems to me that this virus scare is similar in some ways except that it now involves everyone not just those who keep livestock.

So far, I think that the management has been much better than the initial management of the F and M thing.

Anyone else wondering about the parallels?

F &M is taken more seriously and yes i was as guilty as the rest , i just hope it dont come back to bite us , Boris sending mixed messages dont help

 

[tr250]

I remember 2001 very well and I’m a youth thought you were going to say 1967

 

[Sid]

Being a senior on here, I have vivid memories of the whole situation in 2001 in the UK.

It seems to me that this virus scare is similar in some ways except that it now involves everyone not just those who keep livestock.

So far, I think that the management has been much better than the initial management of the F and M thing.

Anyone else wondering about the parallels?

I have said from the beginning, F&M shut down all livestock movements, CV and massive human movements across the globe. Was never going to end well.

During F&M we didn't go anywhere, supermarket delivered food, disinfecting milk tanker and deliver lorries.

General public even with their huge spend on disinfecting and kills 99% of germs cleaners still haven't grasped basic virus control.

Try 3 months of isolation like F&M. Whilst shut down I was involved in a chat group started on Yahoo messenger ,this then moved over to FWI chat, from that came BFF and the TFF.

 

[Water Wheel]

Had we had Foot and Mouth the whole livestock industry would have been locked down with the first case.
Logically given the lessons from China we should have shut down the whole country with the first case.
This of course would just not have been accepted by anyone, me included.
It seems we just have to all catch it now , at controlled managed rate.

 

[Wombat]

I wouldn’t say it was that similar, much more freedom of movement and way less panic during F&M

Also way less financial damage to all of us as a society

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Being a senior on here, I have vivid memories of the whole situation in 2001 in the UK.

It seems to me that this virus scare is similar in some ways except that it now involves everyone not just those who keep livestock.

So far, I think that the management has been much better than the initial management of the F and M thing.

Anyone else wondering about the parallels?

Mmmm, We just shut the countryside/Footpaths/Bridleways & Permissive paths. That was easy. Also there were 90% fewer livestock than in the past on the Estate where I was at that time.

There certainly wasn't the panic buying. That's becoming scary. See the Intensive Care Nurses plea on todays BBC news this morning.

The supply chain is unable to cope and this is week one!!!!

What I do know and this is aimed at the Farm Shops. You will be busy if you aren't already. Up until last week we were overstocked with our lovely free range organic eggs. Now there is a steady stream of customers. FAB! We (the chickens) won't be able to keep up with demand.

SS

 

[primmiemoo]

It's of concern that people are heading away from their homes to holiday accommodation and second homes in the UK now that schools are closed as though a) they'll be somehow safer, and b) they have no clue as to the implications to themselves of their being in a different place should they become ill.

Simon Calder - spokesman on travelling - has given his opinion on the Jeremy Vine show that holidaying in the UK is ok, as long as people are responsible. "Tourism needs the money", is the gist of what he said.

On the other hand, a GP in a group of Practices in South West England was on local TV pleading for holiday makers and second home owners not to come down, because Regional healthcare provision is barely able to cope with the needs of the full time population. "The NHS cannot take the strain", is the gist of what he said.

Unlike the GP, Calder clearly doesn't understand herd impact. Individuals might be utterly scrupulous, but even at the best of times, the herd sweeping majestically down to Fawlty Towers leaves a wake, and leaves its mark.

Inconvenient as it will be, there will have to be required closures of tourist places if people do not think of the wider implications of their actions. The National Trust has already changed its plan to keep gardens and parks open. Some are now closed - presumably to put a brake on gatherings out of respect for the locality.

 

[toquark]

I was thinking the other day that it feels very similar to 2001. The main difference being in this case the effects span the urban/rural divide. I mentioned this to my wife (who's family farm was hit by FMD) who promptly raised the spectre of mass graves or funeral pyres ?

In all seriousness though the scenes coming from Italy are quite frightening. I don't think this virus is to be underestimated we all have close friends and family who fall into the vulnerable category.

 

[deleted user 837354]

What part of: 'no travel unless strictly necessary' do people not understand?


We do not need hordes of Londoners coming to the South West, you could not make this up.

 

[Sid]

What part of: 'no travel unless strictly necessary' do people not understand?


We do not need hordes of Londoners coming to the South West, you could not make this up.

Always said we need RPGs and machine gunners on the bridges over the A303 and M5 from Easter to September

 

[primmiemoo]

Always said we need RPGs and machine gunners on the bridges over the A303 and M5 from Easter to September

A Wall ... ?

 

[Sid]

A Wall ... ?

2 walls along either side of A38 and A30 as well, and on the cornish border to keep out the riff @An Gof and raff @Beef farmer

 

[Working from home]

In 2001 we isolated ourselves for nearly 2 months whilst slowly but surely every farm right around us was culled out. There was only about 6 farms in a ring that remained.
We just had to get on as best we could. Now when this is happening to not just us country folk but mainly to the towns/ citys its absolute pandamonium and panic stations. ?

 

[Pan mixer]

The panic in the countryside is nothing like the panic in London this time which is bringing on a mild case of schadenfreude at present in the farms round here that were devastated by F and M during which I lost a lot of money due to Gvt cock ups and would have gone mad without forum pages - at that time on the NPA National pig association) website. Don't go there much anymore, I like it here.

 

[topground]

Keep everyone within the M25 within the M25 perhaps?

 

[neilo]

I remember 2001 very well too (although it thankfully didn’t get to us), but don’t like to think of myself a ‘senior’ just yet.

Even though F&M didn’t come knocking, I was far more concerned about that threat, than I am about this virus. Am I mad?

 

[melted welly]

Being a senior on here, I have vivid memories of the whole situation in 2001 in the UK.

It seems to me that this virus scare is similar in some ways except that it now involves everyone not just those who keep livestock.

So far, I think that the management has been much better than the initial management of the F and M thing.

Anyone else wondering about the parallels?

aye, my 21st was in March of 2001, so no celebrations. My 40th was this week, so bugger all folk came to that either.

 

[Sid]

I remember 2001 very well too (although it thankfully didn’t get to us), but don’t like to think of myself a ‘senior’ just yet.

Even though F&M didn’t come knocking, I was far more concerned about that threat, than I am about this virus. Am I mad?

I was also more worried about F&M than this virus now.

 

[yellow belly]

The comparison is that biosecurity standard For foot and mouth has to be better than covid19 where 2 m is safe
but with covid 19 every one has to do it properly rather than just livestock keepers

I missed a friends christening due to being a arable farmer during f& m
with covid 19 everything is cancelled
washing hands and door handle care and not touching any one

too many people not taking distancing half seriously enough just as in the first week of f&m ones the bodies stacked up every one takes note
the rule don’t trust every one to be clean of covid 19