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Kevtherev

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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
Without getting too political, the biggest worry for me is that for a decade now the Tories have been a been a suburban party with little interest in real farming. They’d sell us down the river in an instant if it means popularity with their suburban voters who outnumber rural voters many times over. The days when we benefited from rural landowners with seats in parliament are well and truly over. Our own Conservative MP is more interested in keeping footpaths open for ramblers than helping agriculture. It’s purely about majorities and sucking up to whatever pressure group is flavour of the month in the local rag.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
And parish councils which now count as the much beloved local democracy rarely have a farmer on them nowadays. Wouldn’t want our lot dictating how the surrounding is to be managed.
Somebody bin this nature recovery plan quickly.
Sorry wrong thread but of some relevance.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
The environmentalist doesn't seem to notice that the land has been shaped by us ALL

Where are all the old trees, probably gone for one of several possible uses over the years - whether burnt to keep us warm, for houses and furniture to keep us warm, or even for props down the mines - so we could keep warm

creating this illusion that the farmer cut them down so he could fit more wheat or sheep onto the property is available - but it isn't real.
What it represents is a general dodging of the fact that it was "us" who caused it, not just the farmer that occupies it now, but within that dodging of the truth becomes justification

it was all justified once, because people didn't care about the future, just the now.
You still see it, eg the farmers who don't want to do anything about the mistakes made before our time, they just want to grow as much crap as possible, and feel justified in doing that.

Who takes the high ground is probably going to not see this for what it is, but it is there to be seen.

People did this, millions of them
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
The environmentalist doesn't seem to notice that the land has been shaped by us ALL

Where are all the old trees, probably gone for one of several possible uses over the years - whether burnt to keep us warm, for houses and furniture to keep us warm, or even for props down the mines - so we could keep warm

creating this illusion that the farmer cut them down so he could fit more wheat or sheep onto the property is available - but it isn't real.
What it represents is a general dodging of the fact that it was "us" who caused it, not just the farmer that occupies it now, but within that dodging of the truth becomes justification

it was all justified once, because people didn't care about the future, just the now.
You still see it, eg the farmers who don't want to do anything about the mistakes made before our time, they just want to grow as much crap as possible, and feel justified in doing that.

Who takes the high ground is probably going to not see this for what it is, but it is there to be seen.

People did this, millions of them
I believe the UK has more ancient trees than the rest of Europe
 

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