A Land Rover for the Farmer

[Clive]

So you want a landrover you can hose out ?

One that's as reliable as a land cruiser ?

Looks like if Land Rover won't build it for you while they focus on the lucrative towny market these guys are going to

http://www.projektgrenadier.com/

Been talked about for a while but looks like it could well be reality

 

[Farmer Roy]

Interesting

I've long bemoaned the fact that 4WD vehicles are going soft cock to appeal to fashion & townies . . .

 

[Formatted]

Website just has lots of photos of Land Rovers? Are they developing a new car or what?

 

[glasshouse]

So you want a landrover you can hose out ?

One that's as reliable as a land cruiser ?

Looks like if Land Rover won't build it for you while they focus on the lucrative towny market these guys are going to

http://www.projektgrenadier.com/

Been talked about for a while but looks like it could well be reality

Heard that on the radio today, factory to be in north east?'
is it going to copy the landcruiser flatbed?

 

[Clive]

Website just has lots of photos of Land Rovers? Are they developing a new car or what?

I believe they bought defender design rights from JLR

Plan as I understand is to make defenders but better engineered / practical variants and more for the kind of markets as they were originally intended like farmers, utility co's, military, exploration etc

Great plan imo - hope they pull it off because a project like that must be mind blowing

 

[Danllan]

Looking at this lot's website, it's clear that they are just Landrover enthusiasts, very rich and very keen ones to be sure, but just Landrover enthusiasts - and massive egotists too.

I've used Landrovers here and in Africa, and Land Cruisers all over Africa and I wouldn't waste time or money on a Landrover. Not denying that Landrovers are the more capable off-road vehicle, but they leak, break, are unreliable, have irrational tool requirements and are uncomfortable.

My last Land Cruiser went for tens of thousands of Ks without a single problem. It was made not to have problems and was made well; the 1HZ engine even had a mechanical fuel pump; and it's that sort of reliability and design detail that these guys are going to have to replicate.

Landrovers were excellent and, in fact, ground-breaking vehicles in their day; but as for these chaps, as things now stand and without a massive change in the whole design and production ethos, they haven't a hope in hell of making what they aspire to.

If they do manage to produce a vehicle that can do the necessary, I'll be impressed and astonished if they can sell it at a price for most farmers etc. to afford - Government purchases being a different ball game.

Good luck to them and I hope they can make it work and produce a genuinely good vehicle, rather than just resurrect something that has almost become a parody of its former self.

 

[JD-Kid]

you could buy a new merc flatdeck
or one like my new one

 

[DeeGee]

Anyone that can produce a 'real Land Rover' for working farmers will be onto a real winner.
Perversely not only for the relatively insignificant working vehicle market, but more so for the infinite 'copycat' sales potential from more affluent buyers wanting to have a 'proper' farm vehicle parked on their driveway.

Just my opinion.

 

[beefandsleep]

£35,000? Its doomed from the start.

 

[hindmaist]

I think Brexit could result in a "buy British" campaign,with a lot of media hype etc.This company might ride that wave.

 

[beefandsleep]

you could buy a new merc flatdeck
or one like my new one

Like it, what model is that?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

you could buy a new merc flatdeck
or one like my new one

Fair bit of beer money leftover in buying the Cruiser over the Benz Are the sides high enough to keep the crates from falling off

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Like it, what model is that?

G Wagon by Benz , good but a wee bit expensive

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I think Brexit could result in a "buy British" campaign,with a lot of media hype etc.This company might ride that wave.

That might work in the UK, might not elsewhere.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

That might work in the UK, might not elsewhere.

I grew up in British vehicles

Hummmmmmmmm

 

[hendrebc]

No mention of towing capacity. That was the land rovers main advantage over pickups for me. Being allowed to tow 3.5tonne instead of 3 or less. That extra 500kg makes all the difference with a stock trailer full. Its 10 or 12 extra lambs or an extra steer. Ive often found myself overweight by a few 100kg after adding up the weight of stock at market with my 3t towing izuzu

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I grew up in British vehicles

Hummmmmmmmm

Were they "british" or CKD and built in NZ? Even some Aussie stuff was CKD here to, along with Aussie assembled cars like the 250 and 4.1 Cortina's, Austin Tasman's and 6 cylinder Marina's

 

[FonterraFarmer]

No mention of towing capacity. That was the land rovers main advantage over pickups for me. Being allowed to tow 3.5tonne instead of 3 or less. That extra 500kg makes all the difference with a stock trailer full. Its 10 or 12 extra lambs or an extra steer. Ive often found myself overweight by a few 100kg after adding up the weight of stock at market with my 3t towing izuzu

Cruiser will be 3.5 tonnes, but G Wagon was only 2.0 or 2.5 tonnes.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Were they "british" or CKD and built in NZ? Even some Aussie stuff was CKD here to, along with Aussie assembled cars like the 250 and 4.1 Cortina's, Austin Tasman's and 6 cylinder Marina's

Wolsely/Morris 1100's....Maxi's....Mini's...
Possibly the best was a Nuffield 10/66...

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Back to the OP it looks like a good concept - most jap offerings have got far too softified for serious farmer use IMO
FAR too many frills and not enough steel, mud and can hang in too many places...

We need something with the basics right, that a farmer can run out of fuel and get going again etc etc instead of these urban assault vehicles with huge price tags and power everything
Like a cheaper landcruiser-style machine..
Or an alloy-bodied Suzuki LH410 with a magnification factor of 1.1:1